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Old 04-17-2012, 01:40 AM   #11
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100% absolutely. I'm nearly convinced that I could've used one in my 54 gallon.

I have two and they are turned down to 60% so essentially just over one's capacity.

A good rule is 40 - 50x per hour flow for a reef so 35*40(50)= 1400 - 1750. An MP10 is 1500gph so right on track. I wouldn't spend another $285 for 100gph of flow which is nearly a fish's tail-whip!
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:42 AM   #12
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I'm so nervous about getting one and it not being enough then want to upgrade later.
Why are you nervous? They're free shipping, so what would you lose? A few days for shipping ain't nothing if thats what you decide, but Im sure you'll be happy.
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:52 AM   #13
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It's $350 for one mp10es here. The wireless is nearly $400. Prices are high because of import tax.
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Gotcha - so 350 for one or $800 for two to work separately. Decision made
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Oops - I meant work together... Anyway, 100% not worth it. If you had a 75 gallon or something sure, but anything under 50 gallon, there is no way I'm dropping another $450 for minimal flow difference.
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:10 AM   #16
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I do appreciate all the advice. My Ehiem 3000 return is 1500-3000 gph. I'm guessing I'm not seeing all of that. I do have leather and polyp growth over the past few months. The main reason for the addition is better water quality and boost the water flow to get any dead spots. I would order directly from TB Aquatics but I fear the import tax. The online vendor was on echotech's website for authorized vendor in Korea and he speaks English, which is a plus. I'm guessing he gets a good profit but less than if I ordered on my own. He tried to get me to get two of the mp10s or one mp40. I really appreciate all advice you al have given me! If I order the mp10, it'll be here the next day since he has it in stock.
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:37 PM   #17
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I made a mistake on the Ehiem it's 3000 liters per hour, not gallons. It's only 400-800 gph.

After some bargaining on the price and research on another forum, I decided to make the giant leap for 2 mp10wES. I'm getting them at cost (amazon price+international shipping rates) without the import tax. So i figured it wasn't a bad deal. I'd only do better if someone flew over and physically brought them to me. They'll be here tomorrow or the next day.

Several 28-35g owners on another forum had expressed their desire to have a second mp10 in their tank. I think that really persuaded me.

I hope I'll be happy!
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That will be too much flow. I have 2 mp10s in a 57 and could have got by with one. They are both set at only~40% of max speed and my flow is still ridiculous.
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So I got my mp10wes, installed one (in case I wanted to return the other), and put in on full power (as standard instillation process) when things literally FLEW across the tank! I upset my corals, so I tuned it down all the way and have gradually turned it up a few steps. I now understand why I was suggested two, having them synced would make for a great feature. And I also understand why many have suggested only one.

One of my torches (almost directly under the power head) really loves the flow. I had no idea it was so long! It's flowing like massive hair!

I'm debating whether I should open this second power head up or not. I'd kind of like to see how the corals respond until over the weekend before opening the box or returning it.

I think if I installed the other one, and set them on one of the lowest settings I would get some great movement on the corals, especially the Jasmines in the middle of the tank.
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I like the Hydor's. I have never used the Vortech but I have seen where some people say they have a def noise they make being the motor is on the outside of the tank
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