Question about the watts per gallon formula - Page 4 - Aquarium Advice

FishEggs · 06-29-2009, 09:55 PM

it also requires what type of flora and fauna you will want to keep. Saltwater or freshwater? everything has different light requirements. will you want to keep corals? what types? Your original question was answered in the first response. but if you need more info we need more info to steer you in the right direction so you don't waste your time, money and effort.

InfernoST · 06-29-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FishEggs

it also requires what type of flora and fauna you will want to keep. Saltwater or freshwater? everything has different light requirements. will you want to keep corals? what types? Your original question was answered in the first response. but if you need more info we need more info to steer you in the right direction so you don't waste your time, money and effort.

Down the road, yes.

mgamer20o0 · 06-29-2009, 10:12 PM

you cant fault some who is writing up the article. also being rude sure isnt going to get you anywhere. you asked a simple question and it was answered but thats not really want you want to do. no one is getting paid to help you. the others are taking their own time to try and figure out what you want and help you out. like i said.... if you make a thread explaining what you are doing and how you want it people can explain it and why.

with all the time you spent in college on the electrical engineering degree i would think you should know by now its not always that simple as WPG.

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I forgot to add Incandescent before 6 100 watt bulbs.

and for the 2nd time in this thread people dont use incandescent lighting for stuff like sw or planted fw. prob for the what 3-4th time the so called rule was based on fluorescent bulbs.

InfernoST · 06-29-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mgamer20o0

you cant fault some who is writing up the article. also being rude sure isnt going to get you anywhere. you asked a simple question and it was answered but thats not really want you want to do. no one is getting paid to help you. the others are taking their own time to try and figure out what you want and help you out. like i said.... if you make a thread explaining what you are doing and how you want it people can explain it and why.

with all the time you spent in college on the electrical engineering degree i would think you should know by now its not always that simple as WPG.

and for the 2nd time in this thread people dont use incandescent lighting for stuff like sw or planted fw. prob for the what 3-4th time the so called rule was based on fluorescent bulbs.

1st of The question was not answered, if WPG is no longer the rule of thumb then how does one determine what's needed? Not intending to be rude, but am getting extremely frustrated. I was told to read the article and it got me nowhere so hear i am. If this was an easy question I would not have asked it.

FishEggs · 06-29-2009, 11:13 PM

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Not intending to be rude, but am getting extremely frustrated.

that is very easy to do when it comes to lighting.

here is what to do.

if you know what type of corals you are interested in you should post a question in the saltwater forum about what type of light and how much you will need for those corals. again be as detailed as you can as to the type of set up you are putting together including the types of fish, corals, inverts and equipment you will want. you will get better more direct answers with more info provided.

InfernoST · 06-29-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FishEggs

that is very easy to do when it comes to lighting.

here is what to do.

if you know what type of corals you are interested in you should post a question in the saltwater forum about what type of light and how much you will need for those corals. again be as detailed as you can as to the type of set up you are putting together including the types of fish, corals, inverts and equipment you will want. you will get better more direct answers with more info provided.

Will do, Thanks for the advice. I will put together a list together and post it over there.

InfernoST · 06-29-2009, 11:00 PM

Not for anything I replied to you earlier, It's just a comparison. And if it's based on fluorescent how do you explain MH lighting? Wattage is measurement in consumption not output, that one os measured in lumens.

Joker741 · 06-29-2009, 10:13 PM

Since you seem to know so much, maybe you can teach us.

FishEggs · 06-29-2009, 10:16 PM

right. the wpg rule is pretty much out dated and was a general rule of thumb with the t10 normal output fluorescent bulb. todays technological advances in lighting renders the old wpg rule useless especially with saltwater. so if you are going FOWLR the light would be only for viewing the fish and not for growing corals or plants so i think (not sure. i'm a freshy so someone correct me if i'm wrong) you could get away with whatever lights it up enough for you to see them 2 36" 30watt fluorescent bulbs would be plenty.

HN1 · 06-29-2009, 10:26 PM

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If the article on this site was specific i would already have my answer and wouldn't have to post anything to get additional answers. I'm new to SW and am spending a pretty penny setting up my 120 and just want to make certain everything I do and spend is 110% correct. On the other hand if you are not sure maybe you shoudln't attempt to answer something you really know nothing about. I spent 5 years of college to get my electrical engineering degree and have been working in the electrical/electronic construction industry for 25 years now, so I know the difference and found the article inconclusive and incomplete regarding the lighting. I thought this forum was suppose to help people achieve a goal not to prove how smart anyone member is. I'm sick of this crap, I've posted so many times and it's far and few between that i get a direct answer to a question, and it seems most of the replies have nothing to do with the initial question.

I'm sorry to not provide a direct answer. It's an impossible answer to give without more detail though. PM me and we can chat without needing to read over broken posts. It gets tough in forums because of timing. I'm not an EE, but I manage several so I should at least be able to communicate.

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Originally Posted by FishEggs

right. the wpg rule is pretty much out dated and was a general rule of thumb with the t10 normal output fluorescent bulb. todays technological advances in lighting renders the old wpg rule useless especially with saltwater. so if you are going FOWLR the light would be only for viewing the fish and not for growing corals or plants so i think (not sure. i'm a freshy so someone correct me if i'm wrong) you could get away with whatever lights it up enough for you to see them 2 36" 30watt fluorescent bulbs would be plenty.

I agree 100%.

Inferno, if you really want answers (or at least an honest effort at answers) PM me and we can chat. I'm not too proud to say "I don't know" when I don't know. More specifics are definitely needed. We can keep posting here, but it seems as though you want to pick arguments without providing any info and I'm just not comfortable with that.