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Old 09-03-2009, 12:32 PM   #31
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literally all you have to do is take a razor blade and "cut" the old silicone off... once you start, you will understand how it works
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A coouple of thing worth mentioning. It is important to get all the old silicone off. When your sure it is all off get a new blade and go over it again. It is almost impossible to get a nice evn bead without a caulking gun and tube. It is usually more cost effective than the squeeze tubes, as the caulking tube is around $4.00. Lastly, 24 hours is not long enough for it to cure. Leave it for at least a few days. How long it actually needs is dependant on the thickness. Best to leave it an extra day to be sure. The vinegar smell should be gone.Vinegar is good to clean the tank and glass, but the alcohol or acetone is important, to remove any dirt and skin oils. The alcohol will also help dry out any residual water if it was washed before stripping.
This is the type of job that isn't technically difficult, but does require meticulous attention to detail.
As far as the chip goes on the tank in question, I wouldn't be concerned. It is in an area where pressure is the least.
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:49 PM   #33
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24 hours is not long enough for it to cure.
I have to disagree with you, he is not redoing the actual bonding of the glass if that were the case I would agree with you, he is just redoing the internal caulking and 24 hours is adequate, longer is better but a fill test can be done after 24hrs.
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:55 PM   #34
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I have to disagree with you, he is not redoing the actual bonding of the glass if that were the case I would agree with you, he is just redoing the internal caulking and 24 hours is adequate, longer is better but a fill test can be done after 24hrs.
my thoughts exactly... i would want to let the silicone cure for a week before setting the tank up, but 24-48hrs is plenty of time for it to set up good enough for a leak test...
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I have to disagree with you, he is not redoing the actual bonding of the glass if that were the case I would agree with you, he is just redoing the internal caulking and 24 hours is adequate, longer is better but a fill test can be done after 24hrs.
You may be right, but the tube of silicone I have says to allow 3 to 5 days for aquarium use. So, you do what you like, I'll rely on the manufacturers advice. I would be loathe to express an opinion as fact, as you would be misinforming any number of people who accepted what you say as fact.
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OK BillD, The perfecto aquarium sealant (AKA Tank Manufacturer) I use states cures and bonds in 24hrs and can be filled after that when rebonding they suggest a 48hr period (I to like to take the manufacturers instructions into concideration). If you actually read the post from the beginning I actually agreed with you only if he is re-bonding the tank which he is not doing, he is just resealing it.
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One thing I love about this site is that there are so many people out there with the experience and know-how for these kind of questions. I wouldn't have really known where to start!

Thanks to all for chiming in.

I really wish I found this site a few years ago, because I have a 55g that had a broken/repaired cross brace that popped apart while I was gone for a week, so I emptied it and never re-filled it, and ended up selling it at a garage sale for $20 or something, thinking it would need to be re-sealed or wouldn't be good for aquarium use anymore due to stress on the glass or seals. If I had known that I could have fixed it myself for $10, I never would have sold it.
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The stuff I have also says full cure in 24 hours, for a 5mm bead. It further goes on to say for aquariums, cure 2 to 5 days before adding water. Yeas, i did read the post from the beginning, and you didn't agree with me unless it was for a rebond. The reality is that with a rebuild, the thickness of the silicone betwen the panes is usually less than a reseal, so will in fact cure more quickly.
So, my opinion is it is better to go an extra day or 2 before refilling, to be safe. Keep in mind the original use for silicone was not to build aquariums. This was stumbled on by a local who built the first all glass tank, back in the 50s, and went on to be one of the principals of Crystal Aquarium.
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Keep in mind the original use for silicone was not to build aquariums. This was stumbled on by a local who built the first all glass tank, back in the 50s, and went on to be one of the principals of Crystal Aquarium.
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You may be right, but the tube of silicone I have says to allow 3 to 5 days for aquarium use. So, you do what you like, I'll rely on the manufacturers advice. I would be loathe to express an opinion as fact, as you would be misinforming any number of people who accepted what you say as fact.
Lets see, your tube says one thing mine says another, so the manufacturer of your silicone is correct and perfecto is wrong? As far as misinforming people, I think not, I've been dealing with silicones for over 20 years and have never had a problem when I used the correct silicone for the correct application. I went to the manufacturer for it because it is what they use and is specifically designed for bonding and sealing glass aquariums which can handle the stress of all the water. Most importantly no matter what is said if you don't install the silicone properly it doesn't matter if you wait 24 hrs or 24 days it's still going to leak.
I'm done with this silly stuff, what I said I stand behind from actual experience and people are free to use it or not, they are asking for help and we're trying to help them out not to prove who is right and who is wrong the most important issue here is that the tank gets repaired and save him some money to boot.
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