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Old 01-23-2009, 08:14 PM   #1
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Recommended filter for 55g?

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I currently have a 55g planted tank. See my photos for any pictures. I have a couple plants now and plan to add more.

I'm horrible at names for fish, but I have 4 that have a silver front and yellow tail, then 4 tiger barbs, 4 cat fish, 4 silver barbs (or something) and a pleco.

Right now I have a 10g wet/dry sump but I've had problems with it from day one of sucking fish and other stuff up into it and I'm pretty tired about it. I can't get the fish I want because it sucks them up (I want some ottos for the algea). I've tried different things like putting filter media in it and wrapping it with screen, but everything just seems to make a mess.

So, I'm thinking of ditching this whole wet/dry sump thing and get a regular hang-on-the-side filter. I would really like to get just one, but don't know if that is possible. If I get just one, does it have to be in the middle, or can it be on the side? I do have fish, plan on getting more, and will be adding more plants. Unk about C02 right now, but that may happen at some point as well (at least DIY).

Thanks for any help.
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:21 PM   #2
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Sure you can make a HOB a HOS as long as it will fit. Have you considered a Canister Filter?
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Old 01-24-2009, 09:21 AM   #3
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What is a HOB or HOS?

I didn't really know much about canister filters until after I made this post yesterday. Then I started doing some searching and that may be something to look into because it looked like it sucks the water from the bottom of the tank, and you can even get attachments that sit on the bottom with filters. Does the return on the canister have to be on the opposite side of the tank?
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What is a HOB or HOS?

I didn't really know much about canister filters until after I made this post yesterday. Then I started doing some searching and that may be something to look into because it looked like it sucks the water from the bottom of the tank, and you can even get attachments that sit on the bottom with filters. Does the return on the canister have to be on the opposite side of the tank?
Hang on back or hang on side.
I have a Rena XP2 on my 46 gallon. I used to have a HOB (Rena smart filter). The cannister is much better. It is so quiet that I have to put my hand in front of the spraybar to see if it is running.
I put the intake on one side and the spraybar on the opposite near the bottom. I also inject DIY CO2 through the intake.
T don't understand "you can even get attachments that sit on the bottom with filters."
The cannister IS the filter. And a very efficient one.
It comes with three sponges. I also bought some Rena stars and some polyfill to use in the canister.
For your 55 gallon, I would recommend an XP3 or equivalent.

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Old 01-24-2009, 01:58 PM   #5
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Ok, it is a "Pre-filter". Here is an example. This would help from sucking up the fish (one of my issues).

http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/group/14574/product.web
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Old 01-24-2009, 02:08 PM   #6
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The canister inlet has the same type of fitting that your HOB has.
Unless you have fry, the fish won't be sucked into the filter. If you do have fry, I would recommend a sponge filter or you could tie a piece of panty hose over the intake. I've even got neon tetras and even when they were small they weren’t sucked into the filter.
Most expert aquarists recommend canister filters rather than HOB.
Do a search on this forum (or any forum) to convince yourself.
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Old 01-24-2009, 03:04 PM   #7
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XP3 is my recommendation
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Old 01-24-2009, 03:30 PM   #8
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Oh, I don't mind getting a canister, I want something nice which is why when I picked up this tank on craigslist I paid extra for the wet/dry (because I thought it would be best).

I plan on swinging by the pet store this afternoon and looking there. They may be a bit more expensive but these guys have done stuff to show they really care and I don't mind paying a bit more to support a local non-chain store.
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I would also recommend an XP3....that's what I have on my 55. I would certainly recommend going to look at one at the LFS but do your homework for two reasons....1) make sure they don't try to sell you something you don't know about or want, and 2) make sure the prices aren't outrageous, even my great local LFS is almost twice as much as buying online. I like them, but not that much...
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Well, looking online the XP3 is around 125 or so. I'll see what they have to offer and if it is too much I'll haggle with them or buy online.
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