010 TDS is very acid water, incapable of sustaining most aquatic life.
This is not true. TDS doesn't govern the acidity/alkalinity of the water, pH does, which is a logarithmic measure of the amount of hydrogen/hydroxide ions in the water.
I know what TDS is. Hardness is KH and GH, not pH. Read my post above yours with the example.
To expand...from a chemical engineering source:
"There is NO relationship between pH and TDS. Let us imagine a solution of an acid salt, say sodium bisufate (a.k.a. sodium hydrogen sulfate). No matter what its concentration (TDS), it will have a low ph (< 7.0). Now take an alkaline salt solution, say sodium carbonate. Again no matter the concentration, the pH will be high (>7.0). Even for a given solution, there is nothing approaching a linear relationship. Take pure water and drop a flake of sodium hydroxide into it. The pH will skyrocket. As you add more caustic, the pH will continue to rise to a point, but it will do so much more slowly."
From your own link:
KH (Carbonate Hardness - Karbonathärte in German)
Carbonate Hardness measures the amount of carbonates and bicarbonates in water, expressed in German degrees of hardness (dKH). The term 'hardness' in KH is somewhat confusing because it does not actually measure hardness, but rather the alkalinity (buffering capacity - ability to neutralize acids) of a solution to resist a pH change. The higher the KH, the more stable and resistant your water is to pH swings. A KH of 2-3dKH is generally accepted as the minimum to maintain a stable pH.
IOW, a high KH (or TDS, as you're connecting the dots in your posts), does *not* equate to a high pH. Just a better ability to resist swings in pH.
IOW, a high KH (or TDS, as you're connecting the dots in your posts), does *not* equate to a high pH. Just a better ability to resist swings in pH.
This is not true. TDS doesn't govern the acidity/alkalinity of the water, pH does, which is a logarithmic measure of the amount of hydrogen/hydroxide ions in the water.
Edit: I shouldn't say pH "does" govern the acidity/alkalinity of water...it doesn't. It's a measure of the acidity/alkalinity.
There is NO relationship between pH and TDS. Let us imagine a solution of an acid salt, say sodium bisufate (a.k.a. sodium hydrogen sulfate). No matter what its concentration (TDS), it will have a low ph (< 7.0). Now take an alkaline salt solution, say sodium carbonate. Again no matter the concentration, the pH will be high (>7.0). Even for a given solution, there is nothing approaching a linear relationship. Take pure water and drop a flake of sodium hydroxide into it. The pH will skyrocket. As you add more caustic, the pH will continue to rise to a point, but it will do so much more slowly."
You're both wrong.
J.Mcpeak: You seem to not understand the definitions of some terms. GH is the total calcium and magnesium concentration. KH is total carbonate (HCO3- + CO3--) concentration. The two are not inherently related. You can freely increase one without increasing the other. TDS is total solids in solution. It's the sum of GH, KH, non-GH/KH ions (notable sodium, potassium, and chloride), organic molecules, and small particles. It is related to pH (see below), but not in the way you describe. In your examples, it's KH that's controlling pH, not TDS per se.
dmolavi: two things.
I don't think this is a fair assessment. Higher KH will increase pH independent of other factors. It's not the only thing that determines pH (eg, tannic acids from DW, organic acids from fish, acids produced from nitrification), but in raw RO water it's definitely the main contributor to pH. It's no coincidence that areas with high pH generally have high KH and areas with low pH have low pH (although there's some cause/effect problems with the latter).
Second:
This is what we teach non-chemistry/physics undergraduates. It's what we would call a "mostly true lie". In reality, pH isn't a measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, it's a measure of their activity. High TDS can significantly contribute to ionic strength, which can significantly change pH under conditions of high TDS (assuming it's composed of mostly ions). This isn't widely appreciate by the aquarium hobby (I only found one acknowledgment of it), but it will happen to low-TDS fishkeepers who calibrate their meters in highly buffered calibration solutions (ie high ionic concentration) and then try to measure the pH of minimally buffered tanks.