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Old 04-23-2011, 10:59 AM   #1
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Sump Help for Dummies- ME

I really really have no idea of what sump vs. a wet/dry is so please forgive the obviously dumb questions. I'm really gonna need some hand holding for this.

So I'm planning a 125g upgrade for my 55g reef. I know to get a tank with overflows already, I assume this will hide pumps and hoses. When I got my 125g for my cichlids it came with a wet/dry filter, all hosing, the pump and overflow boxes. Here's a picture




It comes with a via aqua va3600 for 4000 liter an hour. It measures 20" long 16" high and 8" deep.

Will this be good enough to run a 125g reef? What's the difference between this and a sump? Is a sump just a whole tank underneath the DT?

Lots of dumb questions I know but help!

Thanks for reading and any insight is more than welcome!
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Old 04-23-2011, 11:28 AM   #2
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A sump is pretty much the same thing as a wet dry but could have more than just bioballs. They might have different slots in it. Or they can be super basic and just be a rubbermaid container. If you need it cheap and effective you could do one or two rubbermaid containers. They could have macro , rubble and filter in one, and skimmer, ATO, and dosing equipment in the other. Or you could mod that but I'm not sure how. Also you could use a tank and have everything together.
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Old 04-23-2011, 11:32 AM   #3
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Well my first thought is to use what I have already, just not sure. I'm not adverse to another tank underneath if that will be even better. I don't even know how the water gets to the sump/filter...I know theres a pump to pump it back in the DT.
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Old 04-23-2011, 11:37 AM   #4
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This is my plumbing and sump. The red knob brings it up the blue brings it down. They are useful to hide equipment and Filter your DT. The plumbing will be posted soon..
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Here they are. And the box us what brings it down. Mine is not drilled so i have to use siphoning to get it out
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carey it goes down into the sump from the overflow whenever water reaches the overflow box basically the water goes down into the sump and the pump puts it back into the tank so its a constant cycle
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If I have it with overflows will I need an overflow box?
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No,If you haven't got the tank yet get one with overflows built in(reef ready,drilled)If you want to keep it cheap get a second hand tank(maybe your 55)and silicon some sections into it,theres plenty of pictures here,in my profile or via the web,melevs etc.
basically you plumb your tank overflow down to the sump where you hide your heater,skimmer,filter media,more LR and macro algae,it then gets pumped back up to your DT via some more plumbing.Its pretty easy you just need to do some research and learn by others.
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Thanks for all the replys guys. So is a sump better than the wet dry I have? I plan on getting overflows for sure even if I get it used. How does the water get up and out of the DT to go down into the sump/wet dry? Is it a vacuum type deal?

Again, sorry about the questions, just explain like you would to a child. lol
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The water gets down to the sump or wet/dry via gravity. If it's drilled, it simply goes down the pipes/tubing to the sump. Usually people will have a refugium, skimmer, and something for mechanical filtration. Usually you have something to stop the micro bubbles from getting into the pump and display tank. The pump pushes the water back up to the display tank. The cycle repeats as the water pumped up makes the water level go over the walls of the overflow, so that water gets taken down to the sump and goes through the cycle again.

edit: Sumps are usually better then wet/dry's because of the different types of filtration. At least that's my opinion. You can have each type of filtration in your sump tank, you can hide most/all of your equipment in it, it's a good place to add your top-off/water change water, you increase your overall amount of water in the tank, etc. You can try looking at this or at this. The second link has some good info in the answer.
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