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Old 11-07-2008, 01:58 AM   #11
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that was the most uninformative reply I have ever gotten "Thanks"!
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:03 AM   #12
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Thank you for the crappy advice Kurt, it is well appreciated. I need help not criticism.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:35 AM   #13
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Not to belabor the point but wouldn't you would need to compare the lumen output since the wattage is the measure of the amount of electrical power required by the lamp to operate at any given instant - the power going in the lamp where a lumen is a measure of the amount of light produced by a lamp - the light coming out of the lamp?

Again not to drag this in a direction it was never intended but it is another of those 'down through the ages' guidelines that has been generalized to make it more easily comparable for the average consumer.

As always .....................IMO
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I don't think Kurt was criticizing, he was simply stating that in some instances (bulbs and skimmers, for example) are things you probably should save up to get a good quality piece of equipment.
It has been stated with experience that bulb would be great for a sump/fuge but not really for your main tank.
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I second Scott's statement.

I have said it many times on here as well that skimmers and lighting are 2 parts of your system that you really can't skimp on. The bulbs you are talking about just don't have the spectrum or the intensity to do much for a reef tank. They may be ok for a FO or FOWLR. I still think the better option is to look into a T5HO fixture or retro kit.
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Old 11-24-2008, 02:40 PM   #16
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Thank you all and apologize for my rudeness! Taxes are coming! Maybe can afford a good system!
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:33 PM   #17
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Just to clarify...

W (watt) is not a measurement of how bright a bulb is. It's a measurement of HEAT. A lower watt bulb DOES mean a bulb that produces less heat, which means less heat transfer to your aquarium, and less fire hazard. But again, this has nothing to do with bulb brightness.
Lumens (or foot candles/candella) is a measurement of how bright a bulb is. This is the number you want to verify for a display tank.

In terms of Kelvin (color temperature), Natural (unfiltered) halogens are 3300k, 4300k is pure white, and most closely resembles the color of natural sunlight. (hence newer car headlight bulbs (HID) being 4200-4500k stock.) Metal Halide bulbs are in the 5000k zone, and is where the spectrum begins to have a blue tint to it. (some refer to this as ultra-white) 6000k has a light blue tint (some call this cool-blue), and as the numbers increase the color progressively gets more blue into the purples around 8000k.

Other people may have the same bulb design, but they purchased the bulb in a different kelvin, so it's better to not ask opinions about a bulb based on the name of the bulb alone.

The kelvin is also important (from the research I've been doing) for determining algae growth. A bulb in the yellow/red spectrum (3300k) will offer more algae growth, whereas a pure white or blue tinted bulb is more effective for your corals and for display purposes.

If your particular bulb really is in the 6000k range, I don't see why it wouldn't be suitable for display tank. Again, add up the total lumens (brightness) of your bulbs against the depth of the water in your aquarium to determine if you're overlighting, or underlighting your aquarium.

On a side note, I'm still trying to understand the photosynthesis process in SW aquariums compared to FW. I've had FW for years, and it's common knowledge that red/orange/yellow/light green bulbs are much more important for plants/plant growth, but the blue-spectrum bulbs will cause an algae bloom very rapidly. I still don't understand why blue (though it looks much cooler, and apparently necessary spectrum for many corals) doesn't cause algae blooms in SW.

Anyway, hope this helps you some.

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Old 11-27-2008, 02:06 AM   #18
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Thank you Justin, this is the clear information I need, not a buy this super expensive bulb that cost $150 when I can get the same lighting for $50. I appreciate your input and obvious expertise. Good luck
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