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Old 05-03-2013, 04:32 AM   #11
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if you want to go canister, id go with a eheim classic 2215 or 2217 depending on budget for your tank, it has a high flow (lower then comparable canister filters) but with it you can drill holes into the spray bar to lower the flow to just a trickle if you want while not effecting the filtration capacity. it also provides excellent bio-filtration which im sure is important with gold fish as well as very good mechanical and fine particle filtration. they also have 0 pass through, so every bit of water that goes through the canister is getting filtered, unlike most other canisters with high flows, a portion of the water just passes through without being filtered. Plus with good maintenance they can last for years, and are nearly silent.

some say that priming the canister is a pain, however it takes me only 2 mins to prime mine, so if you do decide on it send me a PM and ill explain further on how to do it.

dont just take my word on it of course, do some research and see what is best, but when it comes to the eheim's take the "impossible to prime" reviews with a grain a salt, as they have no clue what they are doing.

forgot to add, that with pretty much all canister filters you can aim the output anywhere you want. Though during feeding times, i just turn my filters off so food is not getting pushed around, and once the fish are done eating i simply plug them back in.
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What size is the tank? Perhaps you don't need both filters, and do keep the tank filled. You probably don't need the air bubblers either which seems to be causing water to seep under thew rim.
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:04 PM   #13
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if you want to go canister, id go with a eheim classic 2215 or 2217 depending on budget for your tank, it has a high flow (lower then comparable canister filters) but with it you can drill holes into the spray bar to lower the flow to just a trickle if you want while not effecting the filtration capacity. it also provides excellent bio-filtration which im sure is important with gold fish as well as very good mechanical and fine particle filtration. they also have 0 pass through, so every bit of water that goes through the canister is getting filtered, unlike most other canisters with high flows, a portion of the water just passes through without being filtered. Plus with good maintenance they can last for years, and are nearly silent.

some say that priming the canister is a pain, however it takes me only 2 mins to prime mine, so if you do decide on it send me a PM and ill explain further on how to do it.

dont just take my word on it of course, do some research and see what is best, but when it comes to the eheim's take the "impossible to prime" reviews with a grain a salt, as they have no clue what they are doing.

forgot to add, that with pretty much all canister filters you can aim the output anywhere you want. Though during feeding times, i just turn my filters off so food is not getting pushed around, and once the fish are done eating i simply plug them back in.
Thanks for the info; I was really concerned with the flow return rates of canisters vs. HOBs because if the canisters deliver a more "gentle" return as opposed to the HOBs' "waterfalls," this may make more sense than an HOB for my goldfish...
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What size is the tank? Perhaps you don't need both filters, and do keep the tank filled. You probably don't need the air bubblers either which seems to be causing water to seep under thew rim.
Per my signature, it's a 60 gallon Marineland; as for the filtration, sure, I believe I'm running a bit overkill on it with both filters turning over some 800-plus gallons per hour together -- but over filtering is suggested for goldfish and I wanted to cut down on tank mainteance a bit by overfiltering (I still do my weekly 50% water changes though and sometimes a mid-week 15 gallon change)...

When you say "do" keep the tank filled, I can do that -- but when I fill it up to the brim pretty much, the Aqueon filter appears as if it's not even running because the return flow "ripple" disappears, and this concerns me because I don't know if this is the way this filter was meant to run or if it's creating enough current even though I am running an AquaClear 110 on the other end AND two 18" bubble bars...

I don't want to get rid of the bars, as the fish really enjoy the bubble walls and highly oxygenated water is a preference of the rather demanding fancy goldfish...but, the seeping of the cracking bubbles at the surface towards the back causing the water to run down the back is getting REALLY annoying...
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