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Old 01-15-2010, 01:03 AM   #1
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To sump or not to sump, that is the question

My LFS "expert' tried to talk me out of setting up a sump for new 180g saltwater tank and use two canister filters instead. He claims that sumps are too much hassle and water evaporates rapidly. Any advice on this?
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:30 PM   #2
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Sump Refugium or Canister Filters

My LFS "expert' tried to talk me out of setting up a sump for new 180g saltwater tank and use two canister filters instead. He claims that sumps are too much hassle and water evaporates rapidly. Any advice on this? I am planning on a fish only tank and have been running a 44g saltwater successfully for three years.
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Dissin the sump? He must be a chump.. All things considered, the sump is a better option. Bigger water volume, place to grow macro, place to hide your equipment (heaters, skimmer, etc) so that you don't have them hanging off the tank. Oh and there's just no easier place to do a water change than from the sump. Turn off the pumps.. drain and replace and start them up. No more tubes in your main, salt stains on the glass, fish freaking out.

Truth be told, I run both.I just run the can off the sump Can's are great if you to run media for a short time (or long term) .. carbon, purigen, gfo, whatever.. just take the sponges out or you'll battle nitrates even more.
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Thanks captain. Would you recommend a three chamber sump? This is fish only. Also, sock or no sock. I know that I do not have the luxury of chaning socks during the week, so at most I could get to it weekly. Ideally, no sock. Not sure where to put the protien skimmer either, some say in first chamber.
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3 chambers... skimmer in the 1st, macro/mud/rock in the second, return in the 3rd is my setup.... No socks, sandal guy here
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Dissin the sump? He must be a chump..
Hey Captain that rhymes. You must be a poet.

I do agree that the sump would be better. Added water volume is always a good thing. I have a refugium and a 3 section at that. Would not trade it for a canister for nothing. Refugium is the way to go.
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Dear eatsomepopcorn: I have a 120g FW with a 30g sump underneath the cabinet. The water in the sump used to "fly away" until I did the ugly thing and laid a shrink wrap plastic cover on the sump. The tank is not drilled so a 1200gph hob overflow box is the drain. This box came without a lid so I covered it with the plastic wrap as well. Now the sump keeps the return pump covered for five to six days. The cabinet has no doors because it wasn't designed for this filter system so the drain hoses (2) wrap around the front and dive into the sump. But we don't care, we spend a lot more time looking at the DT. HTH Filter Mechanic
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You already have a thread with the same topic.
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums...rs-125270.html

I'll ask a mod to merge them.
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Dear eatsomepopcorn: I have a 120g FW with a 30g sump underneath the cabinet. The water in the sump used to "fly away" until I did the ugly thing and laid a shrink wrap plastic cover on the sump. The tank is not drilled so a 1200gph hob overflow box is the drain. This box came without a lid so I covered it with the plastic wrap as well. Now the sump keeps the return pump covered for five to six days. The cabinet has no doors because it wasn't designed for this filter system so the drain hoses (2) wrap around the front and dive into the sump. But we don't care, we spend a lot more time looking at the DT. HTH Filter Mechanic
Hopefully your display tank is open (no lids). I'd be real worried about O2 exchange.

If your main is open, (and this is a general question to the no sump because of evap people).. why do you think you get less evap from the main (with prob a larger surface area, under stronger lighting) than from a sump?
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