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Old 08-22-2012, 06:03 PM   #1
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Will Probably Re-Home the Four Goldies Soon...Questions

Okay, so it seems that with the next paycheck, I'll be in a position to buy yet another new tank (after the last 60 gallon cracked and flooded our house) and be able to transfer the four fancy goldies from the 10 gallon they're in now to a new, bigger home. Here are my concerns and questions...

First of all, we're considering getting -- due to budgetary factors -- Petsmart's Top Fin brand of tank, perhaps in a 75 gallon size, which comes with a glass Aqueon versa-top (maybe dual tops) and buying a stand separately. Something like this:

75*Gallon Aquarium » Top Fin® 75 Gallon Aquarium/Hood Combo | PetSmart

What concerns me about going the Top Fin route is that I always said I would never buy another Petsmart-branded product after previous ones just screamed "cheap" and "useless" to me -- but beyond that, if you read some of the reviews by people who own this tank in the link I provided, you'll see where the first reviewer mentioned something about his tank leaking when he first got it...that is something we CANNOT go through again, especially right off the bat. We just had our house put back together from the when the 60 gallon flooded it, so it's a nightmare we do not want to revisit any time soon. THAT concerned me very much...

What are your thoughts on the Top Fin tanks? Should they hold up just as good as any standard Marineland, Aqueon, Fujimoto, etc?

Speaking of Marineland -- the other option we're considering is this 60 gallon package at Petsmart:

Marineland® 60 Gallon Heartland Aquarium Ensemble - Black - Fish - Sale - PetSmart

The thing with this tank, though, is that reviews say it's really tall and difficult to get into when cleaning, decorating etc...further, it doesn't seem like there's a great deal of depth/front to back room, cutting down on the space the fish will have to swim. It does come with the dual LED light system, though, which intrigues me, in which you can use the daytime brighter mode during the day and switch to the blue glow hue at night. This is surely not a dealbreaker, though; we also like the stand it comes on.

Now -- while I look forward to everyone's input on the tanks, let me ask this...if we go with the Top Fin 75 gallon, would the two HOB filters I am preparing to run on it -- an Aqueon QuietFlow 55 and an AquaClear 110 -- be adequate enough, or will this tank require more filtration? What if I dropped the little Aqueon QuietFlow 20 I'm running on the 10 gallon right now onto the 75 to run alongside the larger two HOB's? That filter turns over 125 gallons per hour, so would that be of any benefit on the 75 along with the 800-plus gallons per hour that will be turned over by the other two?

Thanks as always...
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Old 08-23-2012, 02:27 AM   #2
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I never encourage anyone to buy bundles. Its better to buy the individual pieces seperately. I don't like certain things in each bundle.
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I never encourage anyone to buy bundles. Its better to buy the individual pieces seperately. I don't like certain things in each bundle.
Terrance,

The tanks I mentioned in my original post aren't really "bundled kits;" they only include the tank, tops and stands -- unless we go with the Top Fin tank, and then buy the stand separately...

I have the filters, decor, gravel, bubble bars and food already -- heck, we even have a 48" Aqueon strip light and a wooden canopy that survived the last tank crack/leak! We just need a new tank, a cover of some kind (preferably the black plastic hood & light combo) and a stand...
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In that case, go with the 75g. Size is the only thing that matters to me.

Test for leaking for a day or two. Check for bowing of any kind. Return as needed.
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In that case, go with the 75g. Size is the only thing that matters to me.

Test for leaking for a day or two. Check for bowing of any kind. Return as needed.
Would all it take is a few days to test for leaking? I ask because my last tank that developed a crack along the back of the glass and which ended up flooding our home may have been slowly leaking over a period of almost two years...

So, you say go with the Top Fin brand 75 gallon? Should I have any reservations about buying Petsmart's house brand, or are all aquariums pretty much the same?
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Okay, so I did some online research on the Top Fin tanks, and it seems there are reports of people claiming these tanks are merely re-branded Aqueons/All Glass aquariums, made by Aqueon for Petsmart, who throws the Top Fin label on them...I also read, from other sources, that the Top Fin tanks are in fact made by Marineland's Perfecto division and that many of them are packaged with Marineland hoods and lights, while some are bundled with Aqueon glass tops, etc. For what it's worth, I know that I noticed, in my local Petsmart, that the 75 gallon Top Fin tank we were looking at came bundled with Aqueon glass versa tops...

I am not sure which I believe, but has anyone heard anything about this or know if the Top Fin tanks are merely re-branded All Glass/Aqueons or Marinelands? If so, the quality couldn't be that bad; interestingly enough, I have learned that the filters that come with the Top Fin tank kits are made by Tetra...perhaps that's why I saw a whole advertisement for Tetra products slapped on the cardboard packaging of one of the Top Fin tanks the last time I was in my local Petsmart...
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Can anyone at least tell me if the current filtration I have and plan to use on a new tank would be sufficient for a 75 gallon? We plan on installing our existing Aqueon QuietFlow 55 (300 or so GPH) and a AquaClear 110 (500 or so GPH).

Would this be alright for a 75 gallon (we were using these two filters plus two 18" bubble bars on a 60 gallon previously) or am I going to need additional filtration?
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Its adequate filtration.

EDIT: please keep up with weekly 50% water changes as its more important than filtration.
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Dear Artesanwells,

The combination of the Aqueon 55 and AC 110 should be okay and providing 10 times gallon size/hour which is just right for goldies. And obviously any media you can transfer from another tank to your new one will help grow the beneficial bacteria you will need in the tank.

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Its adequate filtration.

EDIT: please keep up with weekly 50% water changes as its more important than filtration.
Thank you, Terrance. And I shall keep up with the water changes. I think I learned my lesson from last time...

Here's a question about the cycling/re-entry plan for the goldies going into the larger tank: Should the new tank be running a certain amount of time with fresh (treated) tap water and the filters running BEFORE the fish go in? And should I even start with a product like Seachem's Stability to kick-start the cycle...or just leave the fish to do their thing in this regard?
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