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Old 08-31-2007, 01:52 PM   #1
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ABN Plecos

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I have 5 ABN plecos that i picked up on aquabid from the same spawn. I'm getting 5-10 more next week from a separate spawn on aquabid. Hopefully I will get a few breeding pairs out of the deal. My question is...how long does it take ABN pleco's to reach sexual maturity? I cannot sex the one's I have yet and was just curious.

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Old 08-31-2007, 02:17 PM   #2
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I believe they need to be 1and 1/2 to 2 years old. These were born in March and are a little over 1 inch now. The parents were about 2 when I got the first batch.
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Old 08-31-2007, 02:33 PM   #3
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I knew I was in for a bit of a wait, but I didn't think it'd be 1.5 years. oh well, long-term project
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Just a FYI....You will likely get a pair from the five you have...You could just purchase a matched pair if you don't want to wait.
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Just a FYI....You will likely get a pair from the five you have...You could just purchase a matched pair if you don't want to wait.
50-80 dollars for an ABN pair is a little much for 2 fish at this point in time. Thanks for the tip. The one's I have are from the same spawn and I was just thinking about the possibility of inbreeding and fry with defects. What are the odds of that happening?

On another note, how often do yours spawn? Are you able to raise many of the fry? Do you sell them to a LFS or otherwise?

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Yes, that is what I figured you were thinking, no problem, no defects!...Mine are brother, sister.

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They were spawning every 6 weeks, (first three batches), now its been 3 months without one.

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I haven't lost any fry. I almost lost some to a filter mishap! (get a prefilter on your intake)

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Yup, LFS
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Even with non-family members, there is a chance of dwarfism (runts) but it's not too often and the mortality rates of albino's are slightly less than that of regular bristlenoses. Oh, and don't be shy, Al has a ton of em'.
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Yes, that is what I figured you were thinking, no problem, no defects!...Mine are brother, sister.

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On another note, how often do yours spawn?
They were spawning every 6 weeks, (first three batches), now its been 3 months without one.

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I haven't lost any fry. I almost lost some to a filter mishap! (get a prefilter on your intake)

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Yup, LFS
That's odd that they spawned every 6 weeks and then kind of stopped. Seasonal maybe?

I will have a 10g qt/fry tank setup for when they spawn..

What does your lfs pay for them? How old are they when you sell?

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Sidenote-Jchillin, what do you mean when you say "Oh, and don't be shy, Al has a ton of em'.?"
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Al (aka Twohobbies) has achieved "Master Breeder" status. Rather than spend money at Aquabid.... *hint*
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Al (aka Twohobbies) has achieved "Master Breeder" status. Rather than spend money at Aquabid.... *hint*

ooo...well I'm the high bid(5 dollars and 7 bucks for shipping) on 5 ABN's right now and there's a day left so we'll see how that goes. What all does he breed? Looks like peppermints maybe?
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I don't think they're peppermints, they look a lot like mine slightly brighter in color perhaps?
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ahh indeed...looks like a minor difference in lighting
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Not sure why Mike, the third spawn never got moved to the 20g grow tank, could be seasonal, maybe the water change temp went up enough to not incourage spawning?? I'm sure it could be many things. I kind of ran out of room in the ark so I was somewhat happy about it.

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Any age over 6 months.

I have no idea what they are, other than common Bristle Nose, or workaholics!

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Thanks Bill, If sitting back, waiting and watching makes you a "Master Breeder" Than that I am.
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Well excellent job Al. Sounds great, any idea what your water was like params, etc?
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My ph is 7.2 & temp 76. Here is some more info for you

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Thanks for the tips Al. Did you have caves/driftwood/etc in your tank? Planted? Ferts? CO2?

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No Caves, No CO2, Ferts--Potassium and CSM&B. Here is the rest of the tank invo

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