GBR Surprise - Aquarium Advice

SparKy697 · 04-21-2007, 12:45 AM

I have a 55 gallon tank with 5 GBR and 7 GGR. A pair has formed between two of the GBR and eggs have been laid. Things are suddenly hectic.

I have had these fish for all of three days and honestly figured I would have time to research what to do if this happened.... But no!

Everybody is chasing everybody around the tank and I have a couple of fish cowering in the top corner of the tank, hiding in the weeds.

My instincts are to start removing fish but I am not really ready with a place to put them. There seems to be a lot of fighting and I am a little worried about the general health in the tank.

Any suggestions would be very welcome on this matter.

shayfish · 04-21-2007, 04:11 PM

I had this happen, but on a smaller scale (3ggr, 1gbr). They will start to calm down once the eggs are gone, but honestly I think the only way to really deal with it is to remove the pair. I have heard that this problem shouldn't happen if the tank is big enough for them all to have their own territory, but my situation was also in 55 gallons with only 3 rams. I think that they are just such curious fish that they will always be checking out the territorial breeding fish's turf.

Jchillin · 04-21-2007, 07:41 PM

You have a bit of a problem there Sparky. The pair will do everything in their power to protect their territory and the others are going to go out of their way to try to take over the clutch.

I'm not sure how fierce yours will be but moving the others is the only option.

**Zagz** · 04-21-2007, 08:01 PM

Did you remove the eggs and the parents?

SparKy697 · 04-21-2007, 08:09 PM

This morning I find that I have no more eggs! My guess is that the pig of an SAE got to them over the night. I found the parents still defending the same spot in the tank where their eggs used to be. I took this opportunity to remove the parents to a 10 gallon tank with a seeded foam filter, heater and a few handfuls of moss.

My hopes are that the pair will settle into their new home and in time produce some more eggs. The last time I checked, the rest of the rams were all swimming together and getting along better than they have since I got them on Tuesday.

Welcome to the crash course on rams.....

Jchillin · 04-21-2007, 09:19 PM

Heh, heh...indeed, welcome! You did the right thing, before you know it, you'll be back here asking about feeding baby rams.

**Zagz** · 04-21-2007, 09:47 PM

They'll try again soon. JC is right, you will soon be asking for help on how to feed them.

kennef · 04-21-2007, 10:36 PM

Sparky ends up with problems that everyone WANTS to have...

mutant plants that grow huge and fish that immediately breed upon buying them... oh it must be so awful for you, sparky!!

honestly... i know the feeling... i buy a lottery scratch off every day... but do you think i could get a losing one?? OMG NO... that would be too easy... sheesh....

SparKy697 · 04-22-2007, 12:38 PM

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They'll try again soon. JC is right, you will soon be asking for help on how to feed them.

Ok, why wait?

So much controversy out there about what to feed the little ones. Brine shrimp are perfect or too big. Micorworms are another suggestion I have read about too.

Thoughts?

**Zagz** · 04-22-2007, 01:21 PM

Baby brine shrimp are best, some like hard boiled egg yolks.

04-21-2007, 12:45 AM	#1
SparKy697 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 1,216 Images: 3	GBR Surprise I have a 55 gallon tank with 5 GBR and 7 GGR. A pair has formed between two of the GBR and eggs have been laid. Things are suddenly hectic. I have had these fish for all of three days and honestly figured I would have time to research what to do if this happened.... But no! Everybody is chasing everybody around the tank and I have a couple of fish cowering in the top corner of the tank, hiding in the weeds. My instincts are to start removing fish but I am not really ready with a place to put them. There seems to be a lot of fighting and I am a little worried about the general health in the tank. Any suggestions would be very welcome on this matter. __________________ -Joe Click "My Info" for tank information. My 55g Tank Log Read About The Nitrogen Cycle Read About The Fishless Cycle

04-21-2007, 07:41 PM	#3
Jchillin Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York, NY (The Big Apple) Posts: 12,970 Images: 47	You have a bit of a problem there Sparky. The pair will do everything in their power to protect their territory and the others are going to go out of their way to try to take over the clutch. I'm not sure how fierce yours will be but moving the others is the only option. __________________ _________________________________

04-21-2007, 08:09 PM	#5
SparKy697 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 1,216 Images: 3	This morning I find that I have no more eggs! My guess is that the pig of an SAE got to them over the night. I found the parents still defending the same spot in the tank where their eggs used to be. I took this opportunity to remove the parents to a 10 gallon tank with a seeded foam filter, heater and a few handfuls of moss. My hopes are that the pair will settle into their new home and in time produce some more eggs. The last time I checked, the rest of the rams were all swimming together and getting along better than they have since I got them on Tuesday. Welcome to the crash course on rams..... __________________ -Joe Click "My Info" for tank information. My 55g Tank Log Read About The Nitrogen Cycle Read About The Fishless Cycle

04-21-2007, 09:19 PM	#6
Jchillin Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York, NY (The Big Apple) Posts: 12,970 Images: 47	Heh, heh...indeed, welcome! You did the right thing, before you know it, you'll be back here asking about feeding baby rams. __________________ _________________________________

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04-21-2007, 04:11 PM	#2
shayfish Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 520	I had this happen, but on a smaller scale (3ggr, 1gbr). They will start to calm down once the eggs are gone, but honestly I think the only way to really deal with it is to remove the pair. I have heard that this problem shouldn't happen if the tank is big enough for them all to have their own territory, but my situation was also in 55 gallons with only 3 rams. I think that they are just such curious fish that they will always be checking out the territorial breeding fish's turf.

04-21-2007, 10:36 PM	#8
kennef Aquarium Advice Activist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 148	Sparky ends up with problems that everyone WANTS to have... mutant plants that grow huge and fish that immediately breed upon buying them... oh it must be so awful for you, sparky!! honestly... i know the feeling... i buy a lottery scratch off every day... but do you think i could get a losing one?? OMG NO... that would be too easy... sheesh....

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