Wow awesome Andy! Make sure you post pics
(or I'll figure something else out. 
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Sorry, I've reached my limit on uploads so unless there is a way to remove the old pics from discontinued threads, you'll just have to take my word for it.
Thanks but I don't use a "smart"phone and I tried a couple of outside sites and warnings from my anti virus programs came up so I'm not doing that either. As for the older posts, once they are no longer being viewed for a period of time, we should be able, IMO to remove the pics while leaving the written content. I see many other sites that do just that.
Just sayin'
Ironically, I was with my Buddy at another Box store and also saw some really nice small veil Angels until I looked closer. :^s then I looked at the tank next to them with Medium sized Angels and one had a rather obvious saddle deformity which made us both ask "Why wasn't that fish euthanized as a fry? That's NOT a healed injury but a genetic defect!!" So their suppliers are no better than anyone else's who doesn't practice strong culling. 
Needed an excuse..... lol!
You got the bottom line right. These are Cichlids and they are going to do what Cichlids typically do. No matter how much you want them to change, it's not a healthy fish that just accepts it's fate and gets along with everyone. That's the misnomer about Angels. It's only their name, not their disposition.
FYI: A bigger tank does not guarantee a better result. For some fish, it just makes them feel like they have a bigger home territory.
Unfortunately I still really like them.
for the encouraging discouragment - telling it like it is!
What does your angels diet consist of? My girl won’t look twice at any shrimp I’ve tried, she’s got a thing for blood worms and recently I found “bug bites” on clearance at the pet store she goes nuts for those and will actually hand feed with them! She’s really not picky but definitely not a shrimp girl.It took a while and settling some issues with the county but FINALLY I have the beginnings of my hatchery to share.
Over the course of the next few months, I will document, as best I can, what is involved in putting together a hatchery to make both good fish & money at breeding fish. It won't happen overnight, so don;t think you are going to see the final results quickly but what I do and how I do it is what's key. The ultimate goal is for 14 pairs of Angelfish. For me, that means a minimum of 56 tanks. I say minimum as there may be multiple small tanks instead of a single larger tank. I've left enough floor space open to arrange racks for either large vats or multiple smaller tanks on a drainage system.
Here's the first shots of building from just a patch of grass:
The breeders got a diet of high protein Breeder flakes in the am, live worms in the afternoon and frozen brine shrimp or bloodworms as their last meal of the day. Fry got newly hatched baby brine shrimp 3 times per day. Grow outs got a high quality growth flake in the morning and afternoon feedings and frozen brine shrimp as their last meal of the day. They would also get live worms and frozen bloodworms a few times per week. The key was not feeding just one food so that they didn't get locked into eating only one thing.
