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Hara 05-28-2003 01:13 AM

The worst was/is yet to come
Whatever is going on with our water parameters, it seems that the serpent star deaths were just the beginning. I did a water change yesterday and 40 minutes later, all the inverts and my flame angel were dieing. This evening we pulled out every snail, crab, starfish, queen conch that we had. all dead. The flame angel had looked like it might pull through, but did not. The naso tang died the day before, the rabbitfish and lawnmower blennie started swimming at top speed, crashing into things, the rabbit cleared the tank but is now back in it and sorta ok. The lawnmower blennie got moved to a 10 gallon quarantine tank.

I am sure that the creatures that died overnight, did not help the situation any, but we think we have gotten them all out of the tank.

All in all, so far, forgetting emotional attachment, we have lost about 300.00 in inverts and fish.

reefrunner69 05-28-2003 06:35 AM

The problem I'm having with nailing down what the problem that the corals seem uneffected. It is effecting the fish and mobile inverts only. Hara and I discussed the possibility of the Sea Apple expelling some of it's guts, but it seems to me if it were a toxin, the corals would be the first to be effected not the last. I am at a loss.

loganj 05-28-2003 08:56 AM

What kind of water are you using Hara? Strange that all this occured right after a water change.

Hara 05-28-2003 09:51 AM

well water....but...all the other saltwater tanks got a water change on Friday and they are fine. The seahorses would have been toast...the carpet anemone in the 55 would have been showing some ill effects I think. They are doing well.

alrmc4 05-28-2003 10:48 AM

is it possible that a poison got into the water like windex or something?

Hara 05-28-2003 05:53 PM

not possible Lor..I clean glass and stuff with vinegar water. We even covered the fact i do not wear perfume, nail polish or hand pesticides are anywhere and I had not added any reef chemicals in a month or more.

BillyZ 05-28-2003 05:59 PM

I'm assuming there's no sulfur smells or you would have mentioned it. What i'm thinking is if you're possibly stirring something up from the DSB when you add the water during your water change? Or could there be a dead spot (possibly a PH quit?) in the tank that is an amonia factory that gets disturbed when you add the water?

what were water test levels immediatly after the change?

michealprater 05-28-2003 07:48 PM

One thought crosses my mind. Could your water be getting a electrical charge from something. check all your equipment for bare wires. A small electrical charge can do serious damage to fish and inverts, but I have seen corals live through it . I know because a freind of mines light fell in his tank and shorted out. Lots of casualties. Hope you find your problem.

Hara 05-28-2003 07:52 PM

We did check for electrical malfunctions and found nothing.
Right now, the ammonia values are negligible, the nitrites are at 0.8
and the nitrates are 110 or higher.
Do you think we should do another water change at this point?
My eel seems like he is suffering.

reefrunner69 05-28-2003 08:07 PM

Due to the high nitrites, yes I would do another water change.

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