My first saltwater- 27 gallon cube

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No scrubbing, or they will multiply. I guess I could take a lighter to it, but I don't have a torch. I could try the lemon juice trick, but it just seems easier to let it go. It's one pound out of 26 pounds of live rock. I just want to end to war on aiptasia quickly. Maybe I'll try another method first, though.
 
Midnighttang said:
No scrubbing, or they will multiply. I guess I could take a lighter to it, but I don't have a torch. I could try the lemon juice trick, but it just seems easier to let it go. It's one pound out of 26 pounds of live rock. I just want to end to war on aiptasia quickly. Maybe I'll try another method first, though.

Not sure how much live rock is where u live but I agree if it's only one pound then I would just let it go dead and get another piece. You def have enough live. Didn't realize how small it was. Before it spreads.
 
Also if you are doing corals eventually then when u buy they they come attached so a small piece anyway which will add up.
 
You can also mix a kalkwasser paste and squirt it into the mouth to kill them.

As far as lights for corals go, I think the most economical would be a four bulb T5 HO system. A six bulb would be even better. I know the cubes can be difficult to find stuff that fits though.

Good luck on your new endeavor!
 
Thanks, everyone! We got a new filter for it last night to replace the ancient piece of equipment we had in there. We bought a penn-plex cascade 700 canister filter. The reviews online were good, so we'll give it a shot. It's a little bit of overkill, but my husband suggested we go bigger, just in case we upgrade, and he wanted a canister because it was quieter. As far as the lights, we're tempted to just upgrade to the LEDs that are reef compatible, because we like the looks of them, but that would limit us on corals, so we're still looking at the T5s. Thanks for the help in the size, Rutrag. I appreciate all the help we're getting here.
 
Okay, let's talk about something more fun, stocking! For fish, we're thinking about a yellow watchman goby and pistol shrimp combo, a pair of ocellaris clowns and a pajama cardinal. We also want some corals (starting with something easy and working up). How does this stock list look? Should I add or subtract?

I have seen some of the CUCs that are sold by the Internet retailers and they seem like overkill for a new tank. How much of a CUC should I be starting out with?
 
The right LEDs won't limit any corals. Convict has LEDs in his biocube and he has SPS corals. I agree though some of the retailer CUC are a little much. The goby shrimp is a good pair and the clowns are good.
 
I also have this same 27 gallon tank which i also switched to a reef tank a few months back. I started with t5s, then got a 150 watt metal halide, now have a 120 watt led fixture.
I really recommend it
I payed $160 for it and i am able to keep all types of coral from soft to sps corals
U dont have to worry about bulb replacement for about 5 years or more
Well thst is whats advertised
Lol
 

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We really don't want something that hangs from the ceiling. It's in our living/family room, so we don't want it to be too obtrusive. My lfs has an led that sits on top of the tank that they claim works for any coral. I need to find out the model, so I can verify their claims. I'm dubious. Otherwise, we might just go with an upgraded version of the one we have now and be more careful with our coral selections.
 
Our new light is arriving tomorrow. We ended up getting the Marineland reef capable LEDs. I know that they are not ideal for corals, but we'll just be careful what we add. We're likely to upgrade the whole thing eventually, anyway
 
We used an instant cycle bacteria that the LFS recommended when we set the tank up and tested to see if it really was instant with a dead shrimp. Truthfully, between the bacteria and the live rock, it really did appear to work. We've added livestock to the tank over the past 2 weeks. I'm know we were faster than recommended, but I have kept an extremely close eye on my parameters and they've been totally steady. Our first residents were a turbo snail (LR had a lot of algae) and a peppermint shrimp (we had aiptasia, too). Next, a few days later, we added some more CUC (a handful of hermits and snails and an Emerald Crab), as well as a pair of ocellaris clowns and a zoanthid. Because we bought so much stuff at Petco, they sent us a nice $10 coupon and I couldn't help but spend it right away, so I ended up with a Royal Gramma last week. We're now in a holding pattern on purchases, because I know we went to fast. Despite my impatience and inability to wait, the parameters have remained rock solid. Approximately 2 weeks after adding live stock, my ammo and nitrites are 0 and my nitrates are 20, pH is 8.0, and specific gravity is 1.023. I've done 2 10% water changes. The only casualties of the tank have been 1 snail who got caught in the rockwork while I was at work and possibly the peppermint shrimp. We've seen no sign of the shrimp, alive or dead, in 3 days. The fish are doing great. The clowns didn't seem to be stressed at all in the move. The Royal Gramma spent her first 3 days hiding in the LR. She still sleeps in there and her tail is pretty ragged, I assume from scraping the rocks. I'll post a few pictures of the inhabitants later on, when the tank has settled from my most recent cleaning :)
 
Here's a couple of full tank shots
 

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Here are a couple shots of the Royal Gramma, one at the beginning and one from today where you can see how ragged he has gotten. The only thing I can imagine is that he's getting ripped up going in and out of the rocks.
 

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Nope, no aggression that I've seen during the day and at night, the gramma goes into a lr cave while the clowns sleep vertically in the corner of the tank. Occasionally, I'll see the larger clown chase the smaller, but never any confrontations with the royal gramma. I though clowns were pretty passive. Is that not true?
 
hi! i am going to stock my 28 gallon nano with approximately the same critters as you did, just in a different order. my turbo, peppermint shrimp and some soil sifter snails were first. a week later, i noticed some hair algae matting up on some corals, so the lfs told me to get three banded trocus as they will eat this stuff. i got three of them.. by the the way, during all of this, i did add a tiny green star polyp for the back of the tank (hope it will someday cover the back), a small zoanthid, which has both green and red polyps, and an orange/red mushroom. in doing my studying, i knew to put in the meeker, quieter fish first, which will be the royal gramma and a couple more corals. a week later, a banggai cardinal fish, with a couple of corals, a week later, hopefully a long finned fairy wrasse and corals and last, the clownfish (i want two). i will also take the lfs advise if i'm stocking too heavily and will make adjustments then. the clowns have a bit of a temper when other fish take their spot, so you would have stocked them last. you may get green water, an algae bloom, which was the hardest thing we've dealt with, but that's over so now, it's my turn to stock. at my lfs, they captive raise almost all their animals, and that is a major point for me, so i drive almost an hour in heavy traffic to get to them. your tank looks very nice and you probably have not over stocked too heavily. my only concern is putting the clowns before the gramma. she may start to hide more, so be sure she gets food. i'd really stick with all soft corals because our tanks are so small, that we don't need Stonies stinging them to death if they grow closer, which they will in a small tank. anyway, that's my story and i'll stick to it. : ) i hope all goes well with you're tank. i read solidly for 4 months to be prepared to do this, but it all came down to a trustworthy lfs and these forums. keep reading and have fun! :fish1:
 
Really, I don't think aggression is the issue. The royal gramma spends her whole day out and about with no signs of agression from the clowns. They swim near each other often and don't nip at all. They do fine during feedings, too. I'm hoping her fins heal up, so she looks pretty again, but every night she goes back in the cave and I think that's where the damage comes from. Oh well, a ragged fish is okay as long as it is healthy:)
 
If it's ragged, it's not healthy. If it's rocks causing the problem, see if you can feel around,gently, in the cave to see if you feel sharp rocks, and you can adjust the rocks. If the rocks seem fine, it is likely the clownfish, maybe after the lights are out. A much bigger problem because terrorizing the fish can make the gramma suseptible to all kinds of diseases. I lost a yellow lab cichlids that way. I separated them for a week with a screen, but when I took the screen out, she killed the male in 3 hours of agitation and missing fins.
 
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