Help, my moor has ich.

[Stefernini]

Saturday she was fine, I wasn't home yesterday, today she has white dots all over her. How do I treat it in goldfish? The other three in the tank are fine.

I added salt, but can I raise the temp?

It's a 55 gallon. Ammo-0 No2-0 No3<20. 68 degrees. pH 7.8

I haven't had to deal with ich in probably 10 years. This moor was covered in ammonia burns when I got her, so I'm guessing her immune system is toast.

 

[Stefernini]

Also, can someone possibly move this? I probably should have posted this in the sick fish section. Sorry about that.

 

[khoifish89]

Saturday she was fine, I wasn't home yesterday, today she has white dots all over her. How do I treat it in goldfish? The other three in the tank are fine.

I added salt, but can I raise the temp?

It's a 55 gallon. Ammo-0 No2-0 No3<20. 68 degrees. pH 7.8

I haven't had to deal with ich in probably 10 years. This moor was covered in ammonia burns when I got her, so I'm guessing her immune system is toast.

There is a way you can treat ich without medicine. By simply putting in a heater and slowly turning the temperature up to 80 degree F. I have tried this, it work. But remember to turn it slowly.

 

[jlk]

Can you please post a pic? When was the last time you added a new fish? I would bump the temp up gradually to the low- mid 70's (72-74).

Ich can be safely treated in goldfish with aq salt at a .3% salinity. This is 11.4 grams salt per gallon. The salt dose needs to be predissolved in conditioned then the solution needs to be added gradually over 48hrs. Maintain the salinity along with frequent wcs/good gravel vacs for one week AFTER the last spot is gone.

For wcs, add back only the salt you remove. So, for a 50% wc, add back 1/2 the original dose predissolved along with the new water. Please ask if you have questions!

 

[Mumma.of.two]

To treat goldfish with ich you need to use aquarium salt not heat. Heat can be detrimental to their health if kept too high and for a prolonged period (like when treating ich).

This treatment is only for goldfish, not tropicals.

You will need a 0.3% concentration of salt in the tank. That's 3 grams per 1 litre of tank water. Dissolve the salt in a container of tank water and add 1/4 of the solution every 6 hours until the full amount is added. When you do a water change you will have to replace what salt has been removed. Eg: 50% water change needs 50% of the salt replaced. Salt doesn't evaporate so don't add any if you are just topping the tank up.

Extra water changes will be needed to help avoid infection and to remove ich from the water and substrate. Leave the salt in the tank for at least a week after the last spot is seen.

(Ninja'd by jlk! Lol)

 

[Stefernini]

Thanks for moving the thread JLK and for the info.

This poor gal has been through so much and now my stupidity has gotten her sick. Here is a pic and I'm pretty sure the little dude in the background is the culprit. I added him a week or so ago and didn't quarantine him long enough, only a little over a week. I thought he was fine, but he's white and I didn't see his spots until today.




In this pic you can just see the white spots on his belly fins.

 

[jlk]

Yep, that's ich. Although it may not be apparent on the white (new) fish, it's there. The other guys are likely infested as well even if you do not see spots yet. Treating the whole is necessary. One thing I did forget is that you should keep a close watch on your parameters- your good bacteria may not be happy about the salinity and you may see spikes in toxins (which means more wcs). Please ask if you have questions (lol, Mumma!).

 

[Stefernini]

I salted the tank, fed garlic peas tonight, and added a garlic infusion to the water as well to boost against infection. I'll for sure keep an eye on my parameters. What, if anything, do I need to do to my water changer to not infect my tropical tanks with ich? I do not want to cross contaminate.

 

[bob mccoy]

if u want to use a medication i recommend PARAGUARD by seachem. i have been using it for years and its really awesome stuff

 

[jlk]

I salted the tank, fed garlic peas tonight, and added a garlic infusion to the water as well to boost against infection. I'll for sure keep an eye on my parameters. What, if anything, do I need to do to my water changer to not infect my tropical tanks with ich? I do not want to cross contaminate.

Only two options here. Either you buy a second set of equipment for your other tanks or you disinfect your equipment before using it on another tank. A 15min soak in a 10% bleach solution will work (1 part bleach to 9 parts water). Rinse well in hot water then soak for another 15+mins in double dosed dechlorinated water. You should be good to go! Also make sure you wash your hands between tanks, too.

 

[Stefernini]

Only two options here. Either you buy a second set of equipment for your other tanks or you disinfect your equipment before using it on another tank. A 15min soak in a 10% bleach solution will work (1 part bleach to 9 parts water). Rinse well in hot water then soak for another 15+mins in double dosed dechlorinated water. You should be good to go! Also make sure you wash your hands between tanks, too.

You have been so awesome through this whole ordeal, thank you so much for your info.

 

[Stefernini]

My moor didn't make it

 

[Stefernini]

This tank is making me feel like a total noob all over again. What happened?

 

[Mumma.of.two]

Sorry for your loss. The combination of the salt and the fish (if he was there for a while) would be causing spikes. All you can do is keep up treatment and do lots of water changes.

 

[Stefernini]

I had no idea salt could completely kill a fully cycled tank. I'm in uncharted territory and feel like I just keep screwing up. All I have ever known are tropical tanks, really didn't think goldfish would be that much different.

This is depressing.

 

[Amlyel]

I am sorry about your loss. I've been following this thread and you've done great things for those poor fish!

 

[jlk]

I am so sorry!!

Yes, salt will mess with your good bacteria. It's still a chemical and this is a fw tank. As Mumma already stated, you will need to continue with treatment and lots of wcs. Once treatment is over, your bacteria should recover once the salt is reduced. Please keep us posted!

 

[Stefernini]

I did two large 50% wcs last night and another this morning. Is it safe to assume the salt is gone and I need to start that over?

 

[jlk]

Three 50% wcs will have cut your salt amount from 100% of the necessary dose down to 12.5% of the necessary dose. A fourth will reduce it to 6.25%. Take this into account before mixing up a new salt solution. Good luck!

 

[Pearly]

This tank is making me feel like a total noob all over again. What happened?

Nitrite spike!!!!! I'm so sorry for your loss!