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Thanks Cynic, my last tank was a pure fluke as i was so ignorant, it kind of set it self up, now i know so much more i kind of wish i didn't, but as i do I don't want to put the potential inhabitants of 10 years plus through hell to get there... If another 2 weeks pass and I get no further...

Thank you very much for reading this. I am 25 days into a fishless cycle of a 450 litre Juwel Vision 450 bow fronted converted to marine with a 90 litre sump tank, 2 x 12" air walls, 1 x 4" air disc, 2 x 3000 l/p/h powerheads, 1 x 1500 l/p/h sump return pump, sump contains 3 chambers...