CO2 Ingredients

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vcorey04

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just a rookie q

besides sugar and warm water...

what type of yeast is used?

and what is the "stabilizer"

OR...

what do i do to make a CO2 producing reaction in a plastic bottle next to my aquarium?:cool:
 
Any yeast is fine some say champagne yeast can deal with higher alcohol concentrations. even bakers yeast is fine thats what i use cause its cheeper. My concoction consist of 1.5 tsp of fleischmans yeast, 3 cups of sugar, 1 litre of water all mixed will in a 2 litre bottle. sometimes ill add baking soda to make it a little more alkili but not always. The key is to keep the temp the same in the bottle always. Colder temps make less co2 and warmer makes more but uses up the sugar and yeast faster. I keep mine wrapped in a small towel.
 
For my DIY system, I tried various kinds of yeast. To be honest, just regular bakers yeast is probably your best bet. The champagne yeast did not last a whole lot longer, at least not in a mode that produced the higher levels of CO2 output that you are going to want. For the price, you are better off just sticking with the stuff you can buy at your local grocery store.

One of the "secrets" I found was I got the best output if I activated the yeast outside of the closed environment in a cup with a bit of warm (not hot) sugar water for 20 mins or so. More of the yeast cells will activate and start producing CO2 in an aerobic (open air) environment, and those cells will continue to produce in the closed, anaerobic environment of your bottle, versus just mixing them all together and screwing the cap on right away.

Also, you will want to add some sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) to your mix. This is the "stabilizer". This will extend the life of the mix as it will neutralize some of the acid that is formed as a biproduct, increasing the longevity of your yeast, and consequently, the length of time your mixture will last.

The other thing to consider is using multiple bottles for your system so that you can maintain a consistent output of CO2. When I was running it single bottle, it would go strong for a few days, then die down substantially for the next week or so. These fluctuations in CO2 encouraged algae growth - which I experienced in the form of BBA. When I added a second bottle to the system, and staggered the mixture changes, I had a fairly consistent level of CO2 output, and the BBA all but disappeared within a few days.

Here is a picture of the setup I used.
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By adding the little mini black ball valves, I could isolate each bottle during a mixture change, thus never interupting CO2 flow. If you do that, make sure you don't accidently leave one closed after you hook up the fresh bottle and let it pressurize - could result in a big mess (not that I am speaking from personal experience or anything... :D) Also, the middle bottle is a gas separator that acts as a bubble counter, and prevents floccuated yeast from getting into the aquarium, a problem I experienced before adding the gas separator. Not counting the hagen system I bought (which I would not recommend, purchased it before doing my homework), the whole setup probably cost less than $10 bucks. If you care about what the system looks like (I did, it sat out on a shelf), the "SmartWater" bottles are decent looking, label comes off easy, and they come in various sizes, up to 2L. Plus, I felt much more intelligent while consuming the water inside.
 
Yeast converts sugar to alcohol and produces CO2 as a by product. Proofing the yeast before adding to bulk of sugar water will wake up the yeast so it is ready to go to town on the sugar before adding to the bulk of sugar water. I think fort384 explained this as "activating" the yeast.

Step 1 in the following link gives a good explanation how to do this.
How to Proof Yeast | eHow.com

Works great for bread making machines and homebrew too.
 
i have the same gray container..

lfs sold me old yeast, thus i started asking questions..

your suggestions REALLY helped..

i'm giving GREAT ratings


where do you get the ball valves?
 
I picked them up from drfostersmith.com when I ordered some other stuff. They doubled as nozzles too - just drilled a hole in the caps, worked them in, and sealed with super glue.
 
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