Thank you for trying to help me. I can't believe how few responses I get....and how NO ONE seems to have advise beyond "check your water" and "it's ich"!!! I give pics, and detailed info....but no one seems to know and/or help anything beyond the obvious issues that someone could google! Sorry. I just spent 20 min typing a detailed message, begging for help, but HUKIT isn't receiving messages. No one owes me a response, but I see all these complaints about negligent people, but when A person who really cares....and really wants help, asks.....I get told my thread are too long! Maybe time to find a new forum. I love my fish, and only need help because SO MANY breed unacceptable fish. Thx for all!