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Old 01-03-2012, 10:48 PM   #1
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I really wanted to do a 200gal dwarf cichlid tank, but now another cichlid owner from my area says that our ph is way too high and the bigger tank the harder it is to keep stable. Can someone give me a little hope?
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I think you could do it. If no just buy some PH 8.2 to keep it up or something maybe ph increase if it goes down too low. (700 post')
Edit : I though you said your water was to low my bad! They like their PH up though .
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:52 PM   #3
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I really wanted to do a 200gal dwarf cichlid tank, but now another cichlid owner from my area says that our ph is way too high and the bigger tank the harder it is to keep stable. Can someone give me a little hope?
I wouldnt use chemicals to alter the ph. Maybe use r.o. water? Or just keep Africans, they love high ph.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:30 PM   #4
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You could use aggronite sand or dried live rock in your tank. It will buffer the water. Dont worry about cichlid buffers. They arent harsh chemicals, its a mix of salt, epsom salt, and baking soda. No biggie..Plus farm raised cichlids do pretty well in lower ph tanks. I like the sand or liverock idea because it maintains a stable ph which is the real key. Adding buffers require more testing. I test my ph every 2 weeks or so and its always 8.2
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Before we talk about lowering the pH, why don't you tell us what it is? A stable pH is much more important than a certain number pH in most cases anyways.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:42 PM   #6
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I really wanted to do a 200gal dwarf cichlid tank, but now another cichlid owner from my area says that our ph is way too high and the bigger tank the harder it is to keep stable. Can someone give me a little hope?
Just to clarify you are wanting a lower ph and not a higher ph correct? I agree with angel, stability is more important alot of times.
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You don't need to adjust ph. Stable ph is better than trying to acheive a "perfect" ph. For example I keep discus and have had for over 7 years in ph of 7.8, which is considered too high. Also several of my friends have successfully bred the discus in the same water. I only recently started considering breeding them.

If you purchase the dwarf's from a supplier that has raised them in a different ph, you can drip acclimate them to get them used to your ph.
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I really wanted to do a 200gal dwarf cichlid tank, but now another cichlid owner from my area says that our ph is way too high and the bigger tank the harder it is to keep stable. Can someone give me a little hope?
Sorry.... but your local cichlid owner obviously doesn't know his head from his rear-end.
First, as others have posted, Ph stability is far more important than the actual number.
Second, the larger the tank, the easier it is to maintain (other than larger PWC's). Small complications can quickly turn deadly with smaller tanks, whereas problems tend to progress slower with a larger water mass, giving you more time to detect & react to any issues.
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They said the ph was 10.5 I was going to use OR water but was told it wouldn't make a difference.
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I would test the water yourself rather than take his word on it.
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I fully intend to run my own test before I give up completely.
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Thats good. Let us know what your tests say. Hopefully its lower than that.
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They said the ph was 10.5 I was going to use OR water but was told it wouldn't make a difference.
I highly doubt that your water's Ph is that high, considering you live in one of the softest water zones in the country.

Remember, when you go to test your water, place it in a clean glass and let it sit out for about 24 hours first.
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I've never even heard of a pH of 10.5, some sort confusion or lack of communication there.
Wild-caught Apisto's wouldn't be happy in hard, alkaline water. They come from blackwater streams with very acidic water. Tank-raised fish are another matter though, particularly if they've been bred/raised in different water for several generations.
If you use r/o water you can fairly easily adjust the pH lower, but maintaining it there is more trouble than raising and maintaining it.
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They use three different kinds of light could that cause a high ph?
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They use three different kinds of light could that cause a high ph?
I can't be sure scientificly but I don't see how that could effect it.
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Light spectrum has nothing to do with water chemistry.
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I said maybe the test was off but I'm taking a sample to my guy, he'll know for sure what's going on.
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