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08-08-2011, 03:59 PM
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I wouldn't get the damsel I'd swap it for a firefish or a gramma just my opinion
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08-08-2011, 04:16 PM
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#142
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I wouldn't get the damsel I'd swap it for a firefish or a gramma just my opinion 
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Good call damsels are little rascals
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Ph - 8.4, Alk - 4.3 Meq, Cal - 450, Mag - 1340
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08-08-2011, 04:18 PM
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Did you get my message?
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08-08-2011, 05:58 PM
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Maby if you x the damsel you can keep the gobie and a firefish or gramma
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08-09-2011, 04:36 PM
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Thanks everyone for the ideas. I think I am going to have a gramma instead of a damsel! Can I still then have a goby?
Just a question, now I have nearly everything in the post this week. How do I fill this up? As in what chronological order? Does it go..rock, sand then water?
And yes I did get your message..just about to reply.
Here are some pictures, from the not so good fish shop:
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08-09-2011, 04:40 PM
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And here are my packages from today
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08-09-2011, 05:28 PM
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What's the salifert test kit? What's re difference from API?
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08-10-2011, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldieLocks1
Thanks everyone for the ideas. I think I am going to have a gramma instead of a damsel! Can I still then have a goby?
Just a question, now I have nearly everything in the post this week. How do I fill this up? As in what chronological order? Does it go..rock, sand then water?
And yes I did get your message..just about to reply.
Here are some pictures, from the not so good fish shop:
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I think you can still get the gobie a gramma is prety small. I would go with some base rock then sand if you get a gobie as thay can coaus a rock slid if not then its realy up to you. As far as when you add the water put a bowl on the sand or in your tank to kind of defuse the water so it wont let get all cloudy.
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08-10-2011, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldieLocks1
Thanks everyone for the ideas. I think I am going to have a gramma instead of a damsel! Can I still then have a goby?
Just a question, now I have nearly everything in the post this week. How do I fill this up? As in what chronological order? Does it go..rock, sand then water?
And yes I did get your message..just about to reply.
Here are some pictures, from the not so good fish shop:
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Gramma are worst than Damsels IMO they can get real bossy in the Tank after awhile and attack New additions even larger fish if not careful- I have a ton of experience with Damsels but in order to keep them from getting territoral there has to be space for them I would do them in a 24G or even a 29G they need space to get aquainted with there surroundings, Yes they are small fish but they get territoral becasue of lack of space- The most modest damsels are the Yellow Tail damsels and do not get as terriortal as other Damsel fish, be aware common clownfish are part of the Damsel family so they too are terriortal and can get aggressive over time. JMO
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08-10-2011, 10:02 AM
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Id add the Gramma last mine is a jerk too lol I find it funny that my Potters angel backs down from her even though the PA is 5x her size
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08-10-2011, 04:24 PM
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Thanks for the input. But...now I am thoroughly confused. When I looked on live aquaria and some other sites it said that Yellow Tail Blue Damsels are a peaceful community fish...if I had to pick between a Damsel and a Gramma I would go with the yellow tail damsel. But both seem like trouble makers... And I'm not keen on the purple fire fish because I do not want any jumpers. Its like seeing cash fly out of your tank. Lol.
I got some more stuff in the post today. One of them being the Ro that Mj recommended. Few questions...how do most people connect it to a water source? How much salt do you add? How do you add the salt? Once you've done the water and then put it into the bucket? That's it for now..
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08-10-2011, 04:32 PM
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And here are the bits that came in the API Master Liquid Reef Kit.
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08-10-2011, 05:40 PM
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Hey Goldie can you send me te link for your API kit? And ya know that RO does that tap attachment come with it??
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08-11-2011, 09:56 AM
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Thanks for the input. But...now I am thoroughly confused. When I looked on live aquaria and some other sites it said that Yellow Tail Blue Damsels are a peaceful community fish...if I had to pick between a Damsel and a Gramma I would go with the yellow tail damsel. But both seem like trouble makers... And I'm not keen on the purple fire fish because I do not want any jumpers. Its like seeing cash fly out of your tank. Lol.
I got some more stuff in the post today. One of them being the Ro that Mj recommended. Few questions...how do most people connect it to a water source? How much salt do you add? How do you add the salt? Once you've done the water and then put it into the bucket? That's it for now..
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Lol Imo thay both arr about the same hot temperd and thay both look cool so I gess its up to you. I have had both and to me seem like thay should be in the same family lol good luck goldie
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08-12-2011, 06:08 AM
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Hey Goldie can you send me te link for your API kit? And ya know that RO does that tap attachment come with it?? 
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API Liquid Reef Master Test Kit: Amazon.co.uk: Pet Supplies
There you go, the cheapest I found.
And the difference between API and Salifert is that Salifert test kits are more accurate. API is still really good, just not as good. Hows your saving coming along?
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08-12-2011, 06:12 AM
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Thanks Steve. I will defenitily add the Damsel last. I might even change my mind with having a damsel if I see something else I like more.
I really need these questions asked by someone if that is okay...?
1: How do most people connect there RO to a water source?
2: How much salt do you add?
3: How do you add the salt?
4: How long do you leave the water and salt mixing?
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08-12-2011, 06:39 AM
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1: I buy my water 
2 It depends on the salt i use 2.5 cups for 5 US gal
3 I just dump it in the pail
4 i like to let it mix for 24 hrs then test an adjust if needed
5 I dont mix any more than i need for a PWC
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08-12-2011, 01:19 PM
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That is great! Thank you Grizz. I have a couple more of questions if anyone could answer them please..
1. What is the correct level of Salinity?
2. What is the correct temperature?
3. Would you advise against using any sort of chemical buffers etc?
4. What are the correct levels for phos, cal, alk etc etc
Please could anyone get back to me
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08-12-2011, 01:28 PM
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That is great! Thank you Grizz. I have a couple more of questions if anyone could answer them please..
1. What is the correct level of Salinity?
2. What is the correct temperature?
3. Would you advise against using any sort of chemical buffers etc?
4. What are the correct levels for phos, cal, alk etc etc
Please could anyone get back to me 
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1. I would say 1.024 on salinity
2. It depends on what you have in your tank I would say 76 to 80 is what my tanks run at
3. Advise aganst no but I am new to the buffer side of reefing the only one I use is alk buffer
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http://www.liveaquaria.com/PIC/article.cfm?aid=89
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08-12-2011, 01:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldieLocks1
That is great! Thank you Grizz. I have a couple more of questions if anyone could answer them please..
1. What is the correct level of Salinity?
2. What is the correct temperature?
3. Would you advise against using any sort of chemical buffers etc?
4. What are the correct levels for phos, cal, alk etc etc
Please could anyone get back to me 
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Doing reef I would advise 1.024 to 1.025 for salinity,78 to 82 for temp,420 to 460 for cal,7 to 8 for alk, o for phos.
Whether you need to supplement will depend on your tank,type corals ,how many etc.That you will have to test over a period of time to determine.Sometimes doing 15% PWC every other week is enough.But to keep SPS corals you need to maintain the calcium and alk,and usually your PH will stay in line.
Of course these answers are from my experience.
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