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Old 03-26-2013, 11:58 AM   #21
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Thanks Convict, I hope it works for a solid base for a reef, learning as I go. You said you had a flame but took him out? Was it only because it nipped at your corals? Was it often?

The Benny looks like a solid reef choice, will he be fine with a future goby/shrimp pair I plan to add last?

Are the Pygmy angels more reef safe than the dwarf angels?
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Old 03-26-2013, 12:07 PM   #22
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Thanks Convict, I hope it works for a solid base for a reef, learning as I go. You said you had a flame but took him out? Was it only because it nipped at your corals? Was it often?

The Benny looks like a solid reef choice, will he be fine with a future goby/shrimp pair I plan to add last?

Are the Pygmy angels more reef safe than the dwarf angels?
I think you'll be fine with the rocks you have. Yea it didn't bother anyone in the tank just my zoas and a few other corals. I would watch it nip at my open brain corals and watch the coral close up. It was I'd say, a daily thing so I brought him back.
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Old 03-26-2013, 12:10 PM   #23
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I think you'll be fine with the rocks you have. Yea it didn't bother anyone in the tank just my zoas and a few other corals. I would watch it nip at my open brain corals and watch the coral close up. It was I'd say, a daily thing so I brought him back.
Okay, I thought about maybe switching the top rock on the left and on the right sides around. Just want to make sure I have a nice amount and layout for the future corals. Hmm **** sorry to hear that... a flame has always been one of my favorites but I am not sure if I feel like taking that risk.
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Old 03-26-2013, 12:21 PM   #24
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Okay, I thought about maybe switching the top rock on the left and on the right sides around. Just want to make sure I have a nice amount and layout for the future corals. Hmm **** sorry to hear that... a flame has always been one of my favorites but I am not sure if I feel like taking that risk.
I like the way the tank looks now but you do what will make you happy. The flame was a bummer BUT it may have just been me. I know people that have them with no issues. It's like anything else. What works for one may not for another.
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Old 03-26-2013, 02:07 PM   #25
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Midas will be fine with your goby shrimp pair.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:17 PM   #26
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Okay thanks Convict, was looking for some feedback on the hard scale since I have never kept corals before.

If I were to add an angel to my current stock of 2 clown Perc & and one six line wrasse, with a future goby... Would that be it or could I add another?
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:15 AM   #27
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Well here's my BC29 stock list.


2 clowns
2 cardinals
1 orange spotted goby
1 six line
1 hawkfish
1 harliquen shrimp
2 peppermint shrimp
1 blood shrimp
2 cleaner shrimp
1 pistol shrimp

Assorted snails and hermits.

I do 5 gallon water changes weekly. I run an MP10 and upgraded the pump to a MaxiJet 1200.

Haven't had issues to date and its been almost 2 years now.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:09 PM   #28
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IMO i would try to make more caves with your LR. Spread them from side to side. You dont need a beach on the either side of your aquascape. Create as much surface area to hold future corals and fish. My tank is similar to yours. I got all the same corals you do!! But instead of fish i house shrimps and crabs
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Wow Convict that is a gorgeous stock, what did you put in their to replace your angel? Have you had any problem with cleaner shrimp and your corals? I heard they love to steal food from them.
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Also, do you guys glue all your frags to the rocks? I have yet to do that, seems awfully permanent!
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:55 PM   #31
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I glue all my frags down with superglue gel. If I don't, the snails and hermits knock them off and they end up on the sand. They come off with just a pull, actually. So if the coral isn't happy, it can be moved pretty easily.
And BTW, I had a half black dwarf angel in my reef, and it ate zoas, brain, birdsnest, just about any kind of coral I had. And I feed everyday. Had to take half the rock out and redo the rock scape in order to catch it and put it in qt until i got a FOWLR tank going. He lives in the FOWLR now.
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When you guys glue your frags what is your process. I have the frag glue, but mushrooms seem to curl up and then fall off the live rock after time. Is it best to just let them lay as they may?
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I anchor mine down after im 200% sure that the coral will benefit the most from that spot. I have had a few times where i wish i didnt anchor it there. I had to redo my whole aquascape because of it.
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I have a flame angel in mine and i have quite a bit of live rock and corals...no issues.
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Do you guys glue underwater? I don't want to take my rocks out just to glue corals to then. What's the steps?

Gosh the angel thing seems such a hit or miss. I even looked into Pygmy angels but heard they nip at sps.
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Do you guys glue underwater? I don't want to take my rocks out just to glue corals to then. What's the steps?

Gosh the angel thing seems such a hit or miss. I even looked into Pygmy angels but heard they nip at sps.
I've used the glue and for some reason it didn't work well for me. I also bought the putty which seems to work well for sticking frags to the live rock because it can be molded and it's extremely easy to undo.
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Superglue gel works great. Hold the bottom of the frag out of the water and dry off. Add a lump of superglue gel and wait with it out of the water for 15-20 seconds then place where you want it and hold in place for 20-25 seconds. That's it. It'll set a little more under water too. And the frags aren't difficult to remove if you need to move them.
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Awesome thank you for that step by step!

Does it ever harm anything in the tank during the process or should I stop the worrying?
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Awesome thank you for that step by step!

Does it ever harm anything in the tank during the process or should I stop the worrying?
You're welcome.
Doesn't harm anything at all.
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I would have no issue keeping up on feeding a dwarf angel. I think I would prefer a flame angel to a coral beauty, just personal preference. Is there a difference between the two? Or differing reputations?
i deffinetly love flame angels too!! great choice!!
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