I waited untill i head him because thats when he comes out to look for something to eat. I had one of those mantis traps and put food in there. It took him about an hour to get all the way in. He was very cautious about it. I tried this many times befor but he would not go all the way in to get the food. I guess he was pretty hungry.. Anyway Im sooo glad he is out he started to get my turbo snails