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08-10-2008, 04:29 PM
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PH & ALK of Top off water
Do you dose anything to bring up the PH or alk of your RO/ DI water used for top off?
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08-10-2008, 06:11 PM
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I dont dose for that. Mine stays pretty much on target with just weekly PWC`s. Where is your`s at that you think you need to dose for?
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08-10-2008, 06:18 PM
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My top off water alk is 3 and ph is around 7. I was just curious if people bring the ro/ di number up closer to the tanks numbers or just leave them be.
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08-10-2008, 09:38 PM
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As far as the PH that seems right for FW. You`ll get the desired 8.2 - 8.4 when you mix in the salt mix for PWC`s. What is your alk and PH on freshly made SW and your tank water. Just wondering
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08-10-2008, 10:24 PM
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I pre mix my PWC and use a ph to adjust the pH of that water....not sure about Alk.
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08-10-2008, 11:24 PM
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I was referring to the RO/ DI top off water that goes in the tank to replace evaporated water. Do you typically bring the PH or ALK up on that? My tank water has a PH of 8.0 - 8.3
I was just thinking maybe it would be more stable if my top off water had a higher PH and ALK.
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08-11-2008, 12:18 AM
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I don't do anything to my DI water for top offs. My pH and alk are very stable from day to day, though I do dose a 2-part for ca/ alk every day.
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08-11-2008, 08:18 AM
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If you buffer your top off water, it's like dosing alk into your tank. When water evaporates, I don't think the sodium carbonate evaporates with it. I would think buffering top off water can easily throw your alk/ ca balance out of whack.
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08-11-2008, 08:50 AM
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Thanks, I'll keep doing what I have been doing then which is leave the top off water as is, and dose the tank for alk and calcium
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08-11-2008, 12:39 PM
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That`s a good idea. I dont do anything to my top off water either.
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08-14-2008, 09:44 AM
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Roka, what do you dose with? Are you dosing to raise or lower?
I hate to high jack the thread here, but I have noticed that my Ph has been slowly creeping lower and lower. Last night it was 7.9! I have been researching and there is lots of info about why Ph goes up, but not why it drops. I have been blaming it on some macro algae I got last month. Can anyone suggest reading on how to raise ph and what causes it to go low? I have been adding more an more coral too. Could that be it?
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08-14-2008, 09:50 AM
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Low pH: Causes & Cures by Randy Holmes-Farley
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08-14-2008, 11:25 AM
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More surface ripple will help to raise the pH. I don't dose my tank with anything, just pre mix my water and use a ph to get the correct pH as my tank.
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08-14-2008, 11:43 AM
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Roka, Oh, I misunderstood you. Thanks for clarifying, I do that too. I thought that the increased surface ripple decreased your Ph?
cccapt, Thanks for the article that is exactly what I was looking for. I will read it this evening.
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08-14-2008, 11:53 AM
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The more surface ripple, the more O2 exchange, thus the higher pH.
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