What do i need to start saltwater?

[emerald76]

Originally Posted by emerald76

Thanks for the help everyone.I was thinking of this stock list if it's possible-
1x lemon peel angel
1x purple dartfish
1x citrus goby
2x ocellaris clownfish
1x cleaner wrasse
1x arc eye hawkfish
5x carribean blue reef chromis
CLEANUP CREW
1x blue lincka starfish
5x giant nassairus snail
12x blue leg hermit crab
1x bumblebee shrimp
5x nerite snail
5x cerith snail
2x margarita snail
2x cleaner shrimp
1x sand sifter starfish
12x red leg hermit crab
1x peppermint shrimp
3x tiger sand conch
2x turbo snail
Any stocking suggestions or cuc suggestions?
Please help!

here is the edited list

[Bearchumjs]

Originally Posted by emerald76

Hang on back refugium (because I want a gold headed sleeper goby)

Aragonite sand. Enough for a sand bed 2-3 inches because I want a gold headed sleeper goby.

That goby likes to sift sand through its mouth and gills. So a nice sand bed will be a good thing. A refugium is suggested because it will help keep up a good population of Copepods and ampipods for the goby to eat.

Also having a lighted refugium will help reduce any ph swings that might occur at night when the display tanks lights are turned off.

[emerald76]

I like the-
Copperband butterfly
Female blue damsel
Strawberry dottyback
Diadema dottyback
Zebra barred goby
Harlequin sweetlips
Bluestripe pipefish
Pair of squareback anthias
Female bellus angel
Green pipefish
French angel
Tobacco basslet
Garden eel
Hi fin banded goby
Brown heniochus
Teardrop butterfly
Tomato clown
Regal angel
Pyramid butterfly
Mccoskers wrasse
Oriental sweetlips
Catalina goby
Lyretail hogfish
Clarkii clown
Panda goby
Sebae clown

[Bearchumjs]

I don't know from experience but I've heard the copper banded butterfly can be hard to feed. Hopefully someone else has better input than me.

[Nu-Nu the eel]

Originally Posted by emerald76

I like the-
Copperband butterfly
Female blue damsel
Strawberry dottyback
Diadema dottyback
Zebra barred goby
Harlequin sweetlips
Bluestripe pipefish
Pair of squareback anthias
Female bellus angel
Green pipefish
French angel
Tobacco basslet
Garden eel
Hi fin banded goby
Brown heniochus
Teardrop butterfly
Tomato clown
Regal angel
Pyramid butterfly
Mccoskers wrasse
Oriental sweetlips
Catalina goby
Lyretail hogfish
Clarkii clown
Panda goby
Sebae clown

Many of those fish get wayyyy bigger then the tank. Please do more research!

[Akillian]

My arrow crab was very aggressive. Medium sized in a 75 gal. He ate my shrimp and even got a hold of one of my clownfish. I took him back and will never buy another one lol. Could have just been mine though

[Akillian]

Sorry! Didn't realize this had 2 pages. New to the app

[Gregcoyote]

Originally Posted by Akillian

My arrow crab was very aggressive. Medium sized in a 75 gal. He ate my shrimp and even got a hold of one of my clownfish. I took him back and will never buy another one lol. Could have just been mine though

It wasn't just yours. They are really cool, but a real pain. Don't suggest them unless there are no other shrimp or corals IMO.

[emerald76]

Nu-nu- I was kinda goin by the petco page
Sorry, I didn't realize it was so wrong
Can you tell me some of the ones that are wrong and I'll remove them?
Thanks

[Nu-Nu the eel]

Originally Posted by emerald76

I like the-
Copperband butterfly
Female blue damsel
Strawberry dottyback
Diadema dottyback
Zebra barred goby
Harlequin sweetlips
Bluestripe pipefish
Pair of squareback anthias
Female bellus angel
Green pipefish
French angel
Tobacco basslet
Garden eel
Hi fin banded goby
Brown heniochus
Teardrop butterfly
Tomato clown
Regal angel
Pyramid butterfly
Mccoskers wrasse
Oriental sweetlips
Catalina goby
Lyretail hogfish
Clarkii clown
Panda goby
Sebae clown

Wrong:
Copperband butterfly
(dottybacks are agressive)
Sweetlips
Bellus angel
French angel
Pretty much all butterfly fish are bad... Very hard to keep alive.
No tangs except maybe a tiny kole or bristletooth

[Ni111]

Originally Posted by emerald76

I like the-
Copperband butterfly
Female blue damsel
Strawberry dottyback
Diadema dottyback
Zebra barred goby
Harlequin sweetlips
Bluestripe pipefish
Pair of squareback anthias
Female bellus angel
Green pipefish
French angel
Tobacco basslet
Garden eel
Hi fin banded goby
Brown heniochus
Teardrop butterfly
Tomato clown
Regal angel
Pyramid butterfly
Mccoskers wrasse
Oriental sweetlips
Catalina goby
Lyretail hogfish
Clarkii clown
Panda goby
Sebae clown

Have a look on live aquaria, they tell you everything you need to know about specific fish, including food, size tank etc etc

[emerald76]

Nu-nu, I edited the list to include only appropriate fish for the tank-
Female blue damsel
Strawberry dottyback
Diadema dottyback
Zebra barred goby
Hi fin banded goby
Regal angel
Mccoskers wrasse
Catalina goby
Panda goby
Chalk Basslet
Five Stripe Wrasse
Barnacle Blenny

[emerald76]

Originally Posted by Bearchumjs

That goby likes to sift sand through its mouth and gills. So a nice sand bed will be a good thing. A refugium is suggested because it will help keep up a good population of Copepods and ampipods for the goby to eat.

Also having a lighted refugium will help reduce any ph swings that might occur at night when the display tanks lights are turned off.

Thanks for sharing !

[emerald76]

Originally Posted by Nu-Nu the eel

Wrong:
Copperband butterfly
(dottybacks are agressive)
Sweetlips
Bellus angel
French angel
Pretty much all butterfly fish are bad... Very hard to keep alive.
No tangs except maybe a tiny kole or bristletooth

Which one is a tang? I edited the list by the way. And just so everyone knows, its going to take a long time to get everything for the the tank- if it happens

[Nu-Nu the eel]

Yellow tank, blue tang, etc. "dori" from finding nemo is a tang and needs a 6 foot long 180 gallon+ tank when fully grown. go to liveaquaria.com an do some research. If it says the minimum tank size is over 66 gallons you cant have it! I have the red sea max 250 like you (of you are considering)

[emerald76]

Wait- I didn't list any Tangs. I'm either doing the red sea or something in the 75 to 90 range if I go salt

[Nu-Nu the eel]

Yes i know you didnt list tangs, just a heads up if you go with the red sea max you can only have the tangs i said, snall ones tho

[emerald76]

Ohhh
Okay! Thanks

[emerald76]

Stock list-
1x lemon peel angel
1x purple dartfish
1x citrus goby
2x ocellaris clownfish
1x cleaner wrasse
1x arc eye hawkfish
5x carribean blue reef chromis
CLEANUP CREW
1x blue lincka starfish
5x giant nassairus snail
12x blue leg hermit crab
1x bumblebee shrimp
5x nerite snail
5x cerith snail
2x margarita snail
2x cleaner shrimp
1x sand sifter starfish
12x red leg hermit crab
1x peppermint shrimp
3x tiger sand conch
2x turbo snail


What could I add from my wish list?

[Bearchumjs]

Fire shrimp! http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...697&pcatid=697

And bumble bee snails.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...55&pcatid=1355

Those are on my wish list anyway. Unfortunately I was told I have to be able to keep the fish alive in my freshwater tank before I can do saltwater. I think my husband has a good point even though fresh and salt are completely different. LOL