20 gallon idea

[ArtesiaWells]

Good choice.

[Goldfish loach boy]

Originally Posted by ArtesiaWells

Good choice.

So this would be a good option?

[ArtesiaWells]

Originally Posted by Goldfish loach boy

So this would be a good option?

No...

"Good Choice" means you shouldn't buy it...

Just messin' wit cha...

But do you not think it would be an alright filter for your needs? What are your concerns?

[Goldfish loach boy]

Well, nothing really, just wanting the one with the best flow and the best filtration

[Zimmanski]

Originally Posted by Goldfish loach boy

Well, nothing really, just wanting the one with the best flow and the best filtration

Then go with the AC or c series, while the aqueon quiet flows are good filters, the other two are much better

[ArtesiaWells]

Aqueon, AquaClear or Fluval are the HOBs I would recommend; the Aqueon you cited would be fine for your needs, honestly...

[Sillyfishies]

Ill sell you my 30. Absolutely hate the darn thing. Im going to do a DIY canister filter.

[Goldfish loach boy]

Why do you hate it?

[ArtesiaWells]

Yes, I'd be very curious to know the answer to that as well...

[Sillyfishies]

It shoots bubbles into my tank and doesn't suck up any debris even though it should be strong enough.

[ArtesiaWells]

Originally Posted by Sillyfishies

It shoots bubbles into my tank and doesn't suck up any debris even though it should be strong enough.

How low do you keep your water level in the tank? The Aqueon is more than likely "shooting bubbles" as you put it because the return flow is dropping so aggressively due to a presumably low water level, it's causing extra "splashing" into the tank. I keep my water level high enough so that there is just a nice "rift" and ripple being shot across the surface of the water from my QuietFlow 55, and never had a problem with "excessive bubbles" doing it this way.

As for the debris problem, something else must be wrong with your filter -- whenever I take out the cartridges of my 55 to rinse and dunk them in removed tank water, there is always excess debris that comes off them...

[Sillyfishies]

Originally Posted by ArtesiaWells

How low do you keep your water level in the tank? The Aqueon is more than likely "shooting bubbles" as you put it because the return flow is dropping so aggressively due to a presumably low water level, it's causing extra "splashing" into the tank. I keep my water level high enough so that there is just a nice "rift" and ripple being shot across the surface of the water from my QuietFlow 55, and never had a problem with "excessive bubbles" doing it this way.

As for the debris problem, something else must be wrong with your filter -- whenever I take out the cartridges of my 55 to rinse and dunk them in removed tank water, there is always excess debris that comes off them...

I've tried being water level up super high and leaving it low. It does a great job of sucking up my plants though!

[ArtesiaWells]

Originally Posted by Sillyfishies

I've tried being water level up super high and leaving it low. It does a great job of sucking up my plants though!

And even when the level is up "super high" -- like all the way to the rim of the tank I'm assuming? -- the filter still pushes a lot of bubbles into the water?

[Goldfish loach boy]

Ok, so this is my 20 gallon long stock
5 neon tetras
3 glo tetras
4 upside down catfish
4 Cory catfish
2 otos
12 ghost shrimp
Questions
Are udcatfish good?
Will two peppered Cory's and two normal Cory's hang out together?
Thanks

[ArtesiaWells]

I think your tank's gonna rock, Loach! Just don't overcrowd too much; what's the situation with your filtration as of right now? Did you pick up that Aqueon or get something else?

[Goldfish loach boy]

Yes, I picked the aqueous I haven't gotten the tank yet, I barely have 42 dollars, and I need 151 for everithing except the fish!, so I need to wait a while

[ArtesiaWells]

Originally Posted by Goldfish loach boy

Yes, I picked the aqueous I haven't gotten the tank yet, I barely have 42 dollars, and I need 151 for everithing except the fish!, so I need to wait a while

Hey -- I understand about money...I can hardly afford to buy a pack of Purigen right now...

And if you type AQUEOUS one more time, I swear....

[Goldfish loach boy]

Yea, really expensive, and like the 20 long does not come in a combo version, you know, the one that already comes with the filter, net, all that, so I have to buy everithing ind

[Goldfish loach boy]

[QUOTE="Goldfish loach boy;2433794"]Yea, really expensive, and like the 20 long does not come in a combo version, you know, the one that already comes with the filter, net, all that, so I have to buy everithing ind[/QUOTEi have to buy everything individually, so more expensive

[Zimmanski]

Piecing it out is the way to go though, Just for fun I priced out everything on petco.com you would need to set up a 20g tank using an AC filter, aqueon pro heater, delux hood/light combo, a net, prime, food - grand total $140, free shipping and tax free. this didnt include the tank but last time i was at petsmart the were $34. A combo kit would probably cost about the same but the equipment you personally pick out is usually a lot better and in the long run you shouldnt feel the need to replace anything and probably will be a lot happier with your tank.