55 gallon freshwater setup
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jetajockey
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technically, no, but it's not really an issue, and some pest snails are fine in the high ammonia levels. Although it does question the purpose of cycling fishless to begin with, if the goal was to prevent any chance of a creature being potentially harmed in the cycling process.
jetajockey
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Yeah. Even though it might be labeled as pure or additive free, it's still a good idea to shake it and see if it has surfactants in it. If it foams up at all then I wouldn't use it.
jetajockey
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Your target amount is around 4-5ppm, if you are reading higher than that do a WC to bring it down. Higher amounts can slow down the process.
eco23
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Man, one day jeta will link my guide and I'll throw a party...after I wake up from passing out, haha! 
Btw, there's a guide in my sig to check out, lol.
Btw, there's a guide in my sig to check out, lol.
jetajockey
come get me tang police!
Man, one day jeta will link my guide and I'll throw a party...after I wake up from passing out, haha!
Btw, there's a guide in my sig to check out, lol.
You know I can't do that, I think fishless cycling is silly.
On a serious note, it's because that guide is a staple on here, it's probably been linked to over 10k times already, so I assume everyone has already read it or at least heard of it.
eco23
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jetajockey said:
True. It's surprising how many people have never seen the stickys section though. I'm assuming the OP hasn't seen it hence the questions.
I can still dream. One day
jetajockey
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The chances all depend on how well you monitor the water quality. There's nothing wrong with fishless cycling, I just rather do it fish-in with seeded media, or with plants.
A few small goldfish in a 55g won't likely build up the toxin levels in any super fast way unless there is overfeeding. The water change schedule just depends on how the ammonia and nitrite tests read, but a general plan that I use for a tank that size with 3 or 4 small fish is a 50% water change every 3 to 4 days and feed very sparingly for the first 8 weeks of tank setup.
A few small goldfish in a 55g won't likely build up the toxin levels in any super fast way unless there is overfeeding. The water change schedule just depends on how the ammonia and nitrite tests read, but a general plan that I use for a tank that size with 3 or 4 small fish is a 50% water change every 3 to 4 days and feed very sparingly for the first 8 weeks of tank setup.
xmattlongx
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Hey jeta you don't do a fishless cycle?
jetajockey
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No, I don't do fishless cycles.
xmattlongx
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How do you do it then?
eco23
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xmattlongx
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I spaced out on that question. Sorry. Xp
jetajockey
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For the most part, the only people I know of that do fishless cycles are just getting started into fishkeeping.
jetajockey
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I didn't mean anything by that, I just meant that most everyone I know that has been fishkeeping for a while just transfers media over or uses plants to cycle tanks, doing water changes as needed. After a while it seems like it's easier to pickup on when things are out of wack and to know what to do to remedy any potential issues.
Fish-in cycling can be done safely and effectively if done correctly, but it's definitely something that can be avoided by fishless cycling if you aren't completely confident in it.
Fish-in cycling can be done safely and effectively if done correctly, but it's definitely something that can be avoided by fishless cycling if you aren't completely confident in it.
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