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Old 12-08-2005, 03:02 PM   #1
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60G advice please

ok I got the 60g tank what filter is good for this type of tank? should I just get another biowheel or just get a canister? how much powerhead if any do I need or does canister makes good enough flow? what other active colorful fish may i get for this 60g including what i have on my 20g tank since I might sell it or trade it I only have room for one tank. how much gravel should I get? etc.
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:10 PM   #2
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Canister - Fluval 404 is great for that size tank. If you want, you could use the spraybar that comes separately.

Substrate - At least 1lb per gal. Smooth pea sized is great.
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:32 PM   #3
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I think you should definately go with a canister filter. If using the canister, you really don't need a power head. I don't have any in my tanks because my canisters provide enough water current.

If I were you, I would increase the numbers of the fish that you currently have. Add some more platties, guppies (of the same sex), Killi's, and Tetras. It would look pretty cool with several schools of fish. You could even get some German Blue Rams.
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:40 PM   #4
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Agreed with everything JChillin and Fishyfan said! although, I'd look into some other substrates as well . . . did you ever consider a sand substrate? If you don't have live plants then 1" of pool filter sand might make a really easy and unique substrate. Just an idea . . . it's also very cheap!
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:45 PM   #5
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where can i get and research that type of substrate?
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Pool filter sand would make an excellent substrate. It's alot cheaper than gravel from the lfs. I bought a 50 lb bag for $6. Our lfs charges $1 per lb for gravel. 8O What kind of substrate would you like info on?
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:52 PM   #7
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http://www.petsolutions.com/Fluval+4...-99999-C-.aspx
what else do I need for the filter to be complete?
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cant find any info on the sand anyone has a link?
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It seems the fluval you linked does not come with the media. Try this instead:

http://bigalsonline.com/catalog/prod...711&pcid1=2885

...and the spray bar: Spray bar

*edit - sorry, that link does come complete.
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What kind of info do you need on the sand?
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:22 PM   #11
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I cant find where to buy or what it looks like etc.
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Pool Filter Sand can be purchased from your local pool supply store.
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I have some pics of the sand in my gallery. I mixed it with some black sand to give it a peppered look so you can't see the fish poop as much. The pics in my gallery are a little outdated, but you will get the idea.
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:49 PM   #14
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is 80bucks good price for a 60g tank? what is better glass or acrylic?
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Does that price include the stand, hoods, lights, or any other accessories? I prefer glass because it is harder to scratch and is cheaper.
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:04 AM   #16
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that includes the hood and light only.
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I don't think it's bad. About average around here.
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Old 12-09-2005, 07:42 PM   #18
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what would be the best active school fish for tis size and how many?
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True Rummynose Tetras are good at schooling, but I would not recommend it since they are mid to bottom dwellers and the crab will most likely eat them quickly. Do you have issues with the crab eating your fish?
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Old 12-09-2005, 09:44 PM   #20
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I never seen him eat one and do you think that would be a consern in a 60g tank?
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