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Old 10-16-2013, 09:51 PM   #1
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Unhappy Cycling without pure ammonia?

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It's seems to be impossible to find pure ammonia in Montrea, Canada
Any way to do a fishless cycle without the pure ammonia?
If I'll put fish food to the tea bag and put it in the tank for some days?

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Old 10-16-2013, 09:55 PM   #2
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get a jumbo shrimp from the supermarket and throw it in the tank until your cycled
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That would probably work.

Placing an uncooked shrimp in the tank and letting it decompose is another popular method. I've heard it can create a bit of a smell though.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:01 PM   #4
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Can I put the shimp to the tea bag?
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Its usually recomended to bag it for easy clean up. Putting a bunch of fish food in a bag can work to and not smell as bad.
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You can actually buy ammonia based products specifically for cycling tanks here in the UK, it's what i use whenever cycling a tank because pure ammonia isnt legal to buy here.

SeAquariums - biomature is the one i use, whether you can get this i dont know.

The last tank i cycled while waiting for my biomature i added some pellets and let them rott after 3 or 4 days i had an ammonia source. Raw shrimp, prawns or fish in a pair of womens tights or socks for easy clean up like mentioned.
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Can I use a mussels instead of shimp?
How much fish food I need to 29g?

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Old 10-16-2013, 10:11 PM   #8
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Can I use a mussels instead of shimp?
How much fish food I need to 29g?

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You pretty much use anything that will rott. In theory you could pi** in the tank as it contains ammonia but doooont. If the mussels are raw and uncooked yes.

It depends, what food would you be using? High protein, high quality foods will do better for obvious reasons.
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I tried that and fish food method and it just made a huge mess and didnt bring up my ammonia level enough to start the process.
I did ammonia drops (enough for 4ppm) and it cycled in two weeks!
I used Dr. Tims aquatics, its on Amazon. But if you do get it their directions are wrong you need to just about double the amount.
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You pretty much use anything that will rott. In theory you could pi** in the tank as it contains ammonia but doooont. If the mussels are raw and uncooked yes.

It depends, what food would you be using? High protein, high quality foods will do better for obvious reasons.
That's what Andy sagar use to do. And he knows his stuff.
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It depends, what food would you be using?
Flakes from dollarama But how much I need to add?
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That's what Andy sagar use to do. And he knows his stuff.
He use to pee in his tank? Haha, that's awesome.

I'd go with the shrimp.
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How many shrimps for 29 gallon?
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How many shrimps for 29 gallon?
One was plenty for my old 20 gallon SW nano. I'd start with one and add more if you need to (I doubt that you will).
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PM me your address and I will send you some ammo the only size I could find pure ammo in was a gallon! I have enough for the rest of my life!!!!!
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Thank you! But I'm from Canada and the shipping will take 2-3 weeks
I'll try with the shrimp
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Now my ammonia is at 0.25ppm
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How long has it been in there?
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:43 AM   #19
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1 day. Or I read the test incorectly...

Ammonia - 0.25
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate - 5
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Definitely looks like you have a small reading for ammonia maybe .10 that will shoot up.
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