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Old 02-16-2014, 09:29 PM   #1
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Gravel or Sand for a 90 Gal setup

I'm changing the whole setup on my tank. A friend recommended using sand instead of gravel. I had never used sand in any of my aquariums and don't know if is better than gravel. My friend stated that sand is better because the waste doesn't penetrate into the sand rather stays on top and is easier to clean than the gravel in which the fish waste goes right into and then a gravel vacuum is needed. Regardless of which substrate choose I want to go "black". I would like to complement with a piece of driftwood and maybe just one or two plants. I forget to mention that the fish stock will be CA/SA Cichlids, mainly 3 - Red Devils/Midas, 1 - pleco, 1- parrot and possibly 1- Parachromis loiselle female.
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Gravel or Sand for a 90 Gal setup

That's not a good stock for a 90. If you get 3 Red Devils or 3 Midas the parrot and Pleco will be killed. I highly suggest not getting any Red Devils or Midas. But I would go with sand I like the looks of it a lot more!
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That's not a good stock for a 90. If you get 3 Red Devils or 3 Midas the parrot and Pleco will be killed. I highly suggest not getting any Red Devils or Midas. But I would go with sand I like the looks of it a lot more!
I know what you mean, but if I'm lucky I'll get a pair out of the Devils/Midas. I got a 30 gal which I'm cycling in case of extreme aggression. On the other hand I'll build some hiding places with clay pots and black ABS pipe for the other fish.
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:49 PM   #4
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A pair of red devil or Midas needs a 125 gallon at least I'm telling you these fish kill everything. Your Pleco and parrot don't stand a chance they will get killed.
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A pair of red devil or Midas needs a 125 gallon at least I'm telling you these fish kill everything. Your Pleco and parrot don't stand a chance they will get killed.
This is true. And I believe a 90g is only 48x18x24. I would seek out a 6ft long tank if you wanna go with red devils OR midas'
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Old 02-16-2014, 10:00 PM   #6
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A pair of red devil or Midas needs a 125 gallon at least I'm telling you these fish kill everything. Your Pleco and parrot don't stand a chance they will get killed.
Understood!, 125 gal tank is in my plans for the future, they Devil/Midas are just 5-5.5". I know Devils/Midas fish grow big and are very aggressive.
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This is what I'm planing for the Red Devil/Midas

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This is what I'm planing for the Red Devil/Midas
The only thing I would change is this. Instead of the top 125 draining into the second tank, make it drain right into the sump. Same as tank 2. Then you should get another pump and make it go to its own tank so 1 pump per tank. That way tank 2 isn't getting tank 1 run off waste ya know?
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The only thing I would change is this. Instead of the top 125 draining into the second tank, make it drain right into the sump. Same as tank 2. Then you should get another pump and make it go to its own tank so 1 pump per tank. That way tank 2 isn't getting tank 1 run off waste ya know?
You got a point there. That way I can run two individual pumps (less GPH x pump)
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You got a point there. That way I can run two individual pumps (less GPH x pump)
Yes that can work. I would aim for atleast 1200gph each. You can always divide the sump right down the middle and give each tank their own sump basically. Not long ways just the middle at 12"
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Yes that can work. I would aim for atleast 1200gph each. You can always divide the sump right down the middle and give each tank their own sump basically. Not long ways just the middle at 12"
I'm getting this one from a local guy

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Okay then go with that. That will work just as good. But definetly go with 2 pumps, 1 for each tank and 2 drains in to the sump, 1 for each tank and make sure you adjust everything to prevent an overflow
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Maybe something like this?

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Maybe something like this?
That is perfect!!! Very nice!!! What are you building the x2- 125g stand out of????
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2" x 4" reinforced and painted with black oil paint (kinda waterproofing it) and will use the following joint tecnique:


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2" x 4" reinforced and painted with black oil paint (kinda waterproofing it) and will use the following joint tecnique:


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Very nice!!! From the looks, you already started building?
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Soon, I'm picking up a 125 that needs to be resealed (for $75).

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Soon, I'm picking up a 125 that needs to be resealed (for $75).

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