Hagen co2 system

[00youknowit00]

What do y'all think about this?

http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2754083

Anyone have any experience with them?

 

[picture_117]

It is in sense just a better looking DIY CO2 system. Bubble counters aren't very good either. You could just do your own CO2 system and save much more.


Edit: I don't know why I wrote bubble counters lol. I meant bubble ladders!

 

[00youknowit00]

Well I found that after making a diy co2 system, and was wondering how good that one was.

 

[picture_117]

It is the same thing, just better looking., and more expensive. It still works great though!

 

[00youknowit00]

But if I had a glass diffuser, and used that instead of the ladder, it'd be pretty great alternative to pressurized (which isn't going to happen)

 

[potatochobit]

what I like about it is that it comes with an easy to open lid and it is colored grey so that you cannot see the mess inside.
the packs are just yeast packs the same as the do it yourself soda bottles.

instead of the ladder, you can feed the CO2 hose into your canister filter if you have one. you are basically just buying the little plastic canister and I think it looks better than a soda bottle. you can use your own yeast mixture once the official packs run out.

 

[jetajockey]

As mentioned above, it's the same thing as a DIY setup, it just looks better. Not exactly a great alternative to pressurized, but it works. I'd just keep doing the diy co2 myself and use the money for something else.

 

[00youknowit00]

Also, does co2 raise or lower your ph?

 

[jetajockey]

It lowers it while it is being injected into the system, as soon as it stops the ph goes back up to it's normal amount.

 

[00youknowit00]

It lowers it while it is being injected into the system, as soon as it stops the ph goes back up to it's normal amount.

Okay thanks! I knew it did one or the other. And was hoping it lowered, cause I already have a pretty high ph, like 8.2, and didn't want it to go any higher.

 

[maxwellag]

How often do you have to replace the little co2 cartridge with this system?

 

[00youknowit00]

How often do you have to replace the little co2 cartridge with this system?

Supposedly every 28 days

 

[maxwellag]

Supposedly every 28 days

oh, then it's probably expensive

 

[mfdrookie516]

Okay thanks! I knew it did one or the other. And was hoping it lowered, cause I already have a pretty high ph, like 8.2, and didn't want it to go any higher.

It's the same water... the fish don't see the change. Not sure why it matters anyways, 8.2 is fine

 

[MonsterfishGuy]

Its a little better than a diy as they did lots of test about the optimise volume of the bottle vs the quantity of each component to have the best quantity deliver and on the longer time possible!!


It around 20 bucks... So for me just the look of my living room worth it!!

 

[00youknowit00]

oh, then it's probably expensive

The refills are $7, and have enough for 3 months.

 

[MonsterfishGuy]

CO2 is an acid and that make the kh to go down.

When you stop, the kh stop going down but wont be back up alone!

KH and pH are related.

 

[mfdrookie516]

The kH doesn't change with co2... the pH does. that's how you can determine the co2 concentration by comparing the pH and kH. Normally, they do correspond to each other, until injecting co2 comes in to play.

 

[00youknowit00]

The kH doesn't change with co2... the pH does. that's how you can determine the co2 concentration by comparing the pH and kH. Normally, they do correspond to each other, until injecting co2 comes in to play.

Okay, I'm a little confused now.. So how do you measure the level of co2?

 

[mfdrookie516]

A drop checker is the easiest way. You can use a chart and compare the pH and kH (since kH doesn't change, but pH does... the pH and kH chart will show you how much co2 you have)... but it isn't accurate if you have anything buffering your water that might alter your kH.