Has anyine ever heard if german tetra rams?

[Impulse09]

I bought on today from my lfs. The guy said they are a lot hardier than german blue rams.

 

[meegosh]

Never heard of them. What did they do? Pair up a GBR and a diamond tetra? LOL

I doubt that it is even possible to breed the two. I've been wrong though, just ask the wifey.

 

[jetajockey]

That looks like a german blue ram to me, possibly a german blue crossed with a german gold.

Pet stores like to make up their own names for different fish sometimes, it's pretty funny.

It also looks like a boy.

 

[meegosh]

Yeah that's what I was going to say jeta... almost a gbrXgold cross or something. More of a rounded body shape than the pure gbr's I've seen. Colors look a little....ermm, artificial let's say.

 

[Impulse09]

It was $20 for one.

 

[jetajockey]

It could just be paled out from stress but the light body towards the back kinda makes me think of gold rams.

I do know of multiple breeders who have been crossing/crossing out german blue and german gold, as well as german gold and electric blue to strengthen the lines.

There's even a red ram floating around now because of selective breeding of golds.

 

[Cichlid Kid]

Looks like it could be crossed with a balloon somewhat and a gold.
Doesn't look like any of my pure gbr's. It's definitely different but i dont believe its crossed with any tetra. Lol

 

[siva]

Well, no, because you can't cross a tetra and a ram. I can't believe that's what they are calling it. And ripping people off charging $20 for them. I'd be curious to hear thier explanation of what makes it hardier than a GBR. Since it's clearly a Mikrogeophagus ramirezi.

 

[Impulse09]

My Bolivian ram is not looking so good after I got the new ram. He stays in one spot at the bottom with his fins clamped. My water is good 0,0,20-40 ph is 7. He is not being picked on if anything he was chasing the new ram.

 

[Impulse09]

This is the Bolivian ram that doesn't look good.

 

[jpchin]

why do you think he doesn't look good? i have 2 gbr's and they stay at the bottom of the tank most of the time. in the evening they stay very quiet and almost lay on the gravel. i've had them for 2 years and they have always acted like that. that's the only thing i can tell by the pictures. unless you have other symtoms?

 

[Impulse09]

Pic today of my 'german tetra ram'

 

[jpchin]

i have 2 german rams and i think what you have is a german blue ram not a german tetra ram. what ever that is. check this out.
German Blue Ram

 

[Impulse09]

That's what they called it at my lfs.

 

[Coursair]

That's what they called it at my lfs.

Well I'd go back, ask for the owner or manager and ask them why they sold you a Ram with Tetra in the name ???

Your other Ram may not be thrilled to share the tank. Make sure he's still eating.

 

[siva]

My Bolivian ram is not looking so good after I got the new ram. He stays in one spot at the bottom with his fins clamped. My water is good 0,0,20-40 ph is 7. He is not being picked on if anything he was chasing the new ram.

I'd try to get the nitrates down. 40ppm is too high for rams. I typically keep mine under 10ppm.

 

[Impulse09]

I know its hard for me too, my tap had some nitrates, and I have a lot of fish, probably overstocked.

 

[siva]

You might want to try adding some more fast growing stem plants such as anacharis to help get your trates down.

Is your bolivian still looking clamped?

 

[Ozy]

That looks like a german blue ram to me, possibly a german blue crossed with a german gold.

Pet stores like to make up their own names for different fish sometimes, it's pretty funny.

It also looks like a boy.

Just out of curiosity, what happens if you cross a Male GBR with a Female EBR and vise versa?

 

[jetajockey]

I *think* it works similar to the electric blue in the EBJD with the EB gene being recessive, where if you breed an EB with a regular specimen your offspring will look like regular specimens but be blue gene carriers. So you'd need to breed an EB with a regular specimen, then breed one of it's offspring with an EB to have a certain percentage of electric blue offspring.

That's total speculation though as I've never crossed out rams since the EB's and golds have good survival rates on their own.