Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Freshwater > Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 11-23-2012, 12:34 AM   #1
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
Posts: 18
HOB Filter Comparison

Hi All,

I have a 20g tall tank and need to upgrade the filter that came with the tank. I am looking at either the Fluval C3 or the AC50. Which one of these filters would people recommend? Also, I currently don't have live plants, but I'm really considering adding a few if this would make a difference for the recommendations.

Thanks!
__________________

__________________
e2wilhelm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 01:56 AM   #2
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Andrew McFadden's Avatar

POTM Champion
Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: johnstown, ohio
Posts: 7,919
Id go with the AC50 if it was me. It has a better flow rate and you can do a lot with them. Plus I'm not crazy about fluval anything for some reason or another, but then again I dont know a lot about the c3
__________________

__________________
Andrew McFadden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 05:23 AM   #3
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
phishfriend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: VIRGINIA BEACH,VA
Posts: 1,527
Second the ac50. Nice units well tested, quiet and as Andrew said a lot more versatile.

Remember to run the old and new together on the tank for a few weeks. To let that new filter build BB
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
phishfriend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 09:31 AM   #4
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,706
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew McFadden
... Plus I'm not crazy about fluval anything for some reason or another, but then again I dont know a lot about the c3
Well, this is going to is going to make you itch then ...
AquaClears are Fluval. They have even rolled out the new packaging with a giant "Fluval" and tiny "AquaClear" on it.
__________________
I support the right to arm bears.
blert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 09:40 AM   #5
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
bkiggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Massachusettes
Posts: 1,301
Aquaclear 70 is better or Fluval 206
__________________
bkiggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 10:12 AM   #6
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
Posts: 18
Thank you all for relying. So they are both made by Hagen then, correct? For a 20, would the AC70 be too much? It is rated for 40-70 g tanks. It seems that you all agree that the AC filter is a better way to go.
__________________
e2wilhelm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 10:23 AM   #7
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
phishfriend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: VIRGINIA BEACH,VA
Posts: 1,527
Quote:
Originally Posted by e2wilhelm View Post
Thank you all for relying. So they are both made by Hagen then, correct? For a 20, would the AC70 be too much? It is rated for 40-70 g tanks. It seems that you all agree that the AC filter is a better way to go.
I have never been able to over filter a tank. The more filtration the better IMO. On both my present tanks, I'm filtering the tank volume roughly 14x an hour per tank. I'm also adding a refugium to my 40.

You don't have to do this of course.
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
phishfriend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 10:40 AM   #8
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
bkiggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Massachusettes
Posts: 1,301
You can never have TOO much filtration.

I have a 40 gallon with filter for 110-150 g
__________________
bkiggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 11:15 AM   #9
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Andrew McFadden's Avatar

POTM Champion
Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: johnstown, ohio
Posts: 7,919
Quote:
Originally Posted by blert

Well, this is going to is going to make you itch then ...
AquaClears are Fluval. They have even rolled out the new packaging with a giant "Fluval" and tiny "AquaClear" on it.
Hahahahahaha
__________________
Andrew McFadden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 11:34 AM   #10
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
Posts: 18
I just purchased the AC70 from Amazon. The price was very good. Thank you all for your help on this and I'm sure my fish will be much happier.

Another question, what type of plants are good for a beginner like me? I think I will start off with potted plants.

Thanks Again. E
__________________
e2wilhelm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 03:50 PM   #11
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
DavidAl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SW Florida
Posts: 756
I'm afraid the AC70 might be a little too much for a 20. You can't over filter, but you can over current. You might need to acquire some rheophilic fish! Seriously, though, I would think twice about putting anything with long flowing fins in this tank, or any fish that likes calm waters.

The Aquaclear filters are great. You can't go wrong with it.

David
__________________
DavidAl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 04:20 PM   #12
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Northern NJ
Posts: 504
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidAl View Post
I'm afraid the AC70 might be a little too much for a 20. You can't over filter, but you can over current. You might need to acquire some rheophilic fish! Seriously, though, I would think twice about putting anything with long flowing fins in this tank, or any fish that likes calm waters.

The Aquaclear filters are great. You can't go wrong with it.

David
exactly right..IMO the AC 70 is overkill for a 20 gallon tank. I own an AC 70 and it puts out quite a bit of current. I also own the fluval c4

the fluval C3 or C4 are newer version's of the aquaclears. It is really a matter of choice, they both are really good filters. The fluval C series has a "wet/dry" built into the filter.

the aquaclear's have a little more room for customization.
__________________
Quest84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 05:25 PM   #13
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
Posts: 18
Thanks for the advice. I actually checked on the flow and the AC70 can be adjusted so the flow rate range is 100 to 300 g/h. I was thinking that I would adjust it to 200 g/h, which is equivalent to the C3. I can see if my fish can handle the extra current.

My fish:
3 Platies
1 Dwarf Gourami
4 Cories
2 Oto's

Still want:
6 to 8 Cardinal Tetras

E
__________________
e2wilhelm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 05:28 PM   #14
Lt.
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Lt.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Butte, Montana
Posts: 809
The AC50, I'm getting an AC70 for my 45 soon. I just like the different thing you can do with different filter medias.

P.S. IMO, the cardinals are to big and active for a 20 gallon tank, but you might be able to get away with'em.
__________________

__________________
Whenever I watch the News, no matter what network it is, i'm like:
Lt. is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
filter, hob, hob filter

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off








» Photo Contest Winners







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.