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04-13-2012, 03:46 PM
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Honey gourami mystery death
Hey all.
Well today is a sad day, my HG "Spot" died today.
I had added shrimp to the tank earlier in the day (from a user on here so I know no illness came with them) and after an hour of them being there Spot was laying in the substrate dead.
While I was intro-ing the new shrimp I did spill roughly 200ml of the water they had been shipped in into the tank.
I've tested the water twice-
Ammo 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 40
I performed a 60% change just to be sure nothing harmful built up.
Nitrate is now >20ppm.
Help?!
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04-13-2012, 03:59 PM
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The nitrate seemed a bit high. Some gouramis are really sensitive to nitrite and nitrates. I bet that's what caused it, but it could have just been an illness. Maybe there was alot of nitrate in the shrimp's water?
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04-13-2012, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by maxwellag
The nitrate seemed a bit high. Some gouramis are really sensitive to nitrite and nitrates. I bet that's what caused it, but it could have just been an illness.
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40 isn't that high though from what I've read.
It'll only have been that high for 2-3 days max, I can't see that being the cause of the death (my opinion of course lol)
My tetra seem none for worse, it's just frustrating to lose a fish I've had for over 6 months so suddenly
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04-13-2012, 04:53 PM
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Ya gourami's can be sensitive to nitrates. I'm sorry for your loss. I remember when my gourami died due to bloat. Was a sad sad day
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04-13-2012, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Scouser
Hey all.
Well today is a sad day, my HG "Spot" died today.
I had added shrimp to the tank earlier in the day (from a user on here so I know no illness came with them) and after an hour of them being there Spot was laying in the substrate dead.
While I was intro-ing the new shrimp I did spill roughly 200ml of the water they had been shipped in into the tank.
I've tested the water twice-
Ammo 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 40
I performed a 60% change just to be sure nothing harmful built up.
Nitrate is now >20ppm.
Help?!
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I concur with others, Gouramis are very sensitive to nitrates, really sorry for your loss. RIP.
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04-13-2012, 05:23 PM
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Not to get off topic completely, is your tank planted?
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04-13-2012, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Readingexcalibur
Not to get off topic completely, is your tank planted?
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Why do you ask?
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04-13-2012, 06:43 PM
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Why do you ask?
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Just thinking variables, my dwarf gourami has been alive and well for a year now. My tank is decently planted, the pic is his tank. I slightly overstocked however I have never once had a nitrate reading over 0. Well maybe during the initial cycle and all. But I think the plants are the reason my gourami is alive and well. Just throwing out ideas.
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04-13-2012, 06:45 PM
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Planted well enough
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04-13-2012, 06:53 PM
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Planted well enough
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Tank looks nice, I don't know why you would have a nitrate problem. Im sure someone will help figure out this issue.
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04-13-2012, 07:14 PM
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Tank looks nice, I don't know why you would have a nitrate problem. Im sure someone will help figure out this issue. 
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I don't have a nitrate problem.
The colour was between 20 and 40.
So it was probably around 30ish, I was a few days late on a water change due to work, it's not that high and it was too short a period for that to play a part.
I honestly believe it had to with the intro of the shrimp or the small amount of their bag water I spilled in the tank...
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04-13-2012, 09:21 PM
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I'm sorry scouser! poor fella
Just a thought, he didn't choke on a shrimp did he? Honestly nitrates at 20-40ppm shouldn't make a gourami just drop dread like that.
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04-13-2012, 10:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouser
I don't have a nitrate problem.
The colour was between 20 and 40.
So it was probably around 30ish, I was a few days late on a water change due to work, it's not that high and it was too short a period for that to play a part.
I honestly believe it had to with the intro of the shrimp or the small amount of their bag water I spilled in the tank...
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Well, I'm sorry for your gourami that was lost. When you get another, I hope it turns out better.
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04-14-2012, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Mumma.of.two
I'm sorry scouser! poor fella 
Just a thought, he didn't choke on a shrimp did he? Honestly nitrates at 20-40ppm shouldn't make a gourami just drop dread like that.
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Thanks
And this may sound stupid but that was my first thought, but I didn't know of they fish could actually choke lol
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04-14-2012, 02:37 AM
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Oh they can, I saw a episode of river monsters where he caught a vampire fish choking on a smaller vampire fish. Fish are crazy!
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04-14-2012, 02:38 AM
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I've gotta say that that seems to be the only logical explanation then
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04-14-2012, 02:39 AM
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This sounds like a mystery to me scoob! :lol
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04-14-2012, 02:43 AM
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This sounds like a mystery to me scoob! :lol
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Rooby roooby roooo!
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04-14-2012, 02:56 AM
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So are you gonna go with another honey gourami or something else similar?
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04-14-2012, 03:19 AM
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So are you gonna go with another honey gourami or something else similar?
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For now imma leave the space open, I'm too busy to try to accustom a new fish to the tank (feedin patterns etc)
As for when I'm ready, I have no idea...
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