Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Freshwater > Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 08-13-2013, 09:43 AM   #1
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Gulf Breeze, Florida
Posts: 419
Seeking advice from experts to prevent problems ..... 38 gallon stocked

I would appreciate any advice that you may have regarding my tank. I decided to ask before I have problems. After dealing with blackbush algae (now cured thanks to this forum) and being stupid enough to put neons in with goldfish ….. which of course disappeared, please provide me with any adice on care to keep me from having future problems. My setup:

38 gallon, HOB Aqua-Tech 30-60 filter (300GPH). Tank is 32 months old and I switched from goldfish to tropicals on August 1. No real plants but lots of “silk” plants + driftwood. The tank is stocked as follows:

2 x albino cory (very small)
5 x black neons
8 x neon tetra
5 x Harlequin Rasbora
5 x Serpae Tetra
5 x white cloud
5 x Red Eye Tetra
2 x Platy (Red Wagtail).


Fish are all healthy and happy looking and acting right now. The water is crystal clear with no smell. I had it tested yesterday at Petland …. with the good “drops” and it was Pristine. I keep the tank at 75 degrees.

Potential issues I see are:

Fish/Corys: According to aqadvisor.com, I am "maxed out" at 102% of capacity on fish and the only advice they give me is that albino cory do best with 4. Fish “expert” at Petland said two is fine. I plan to stick with two.

Water Quality: Tap water here in 32563 (Midway Water Supply, Gulf Breeze FL) is horrific. To keep the tank clear and within normal bio limits, I have to buy gallon jugs of spring water so water changes cost $$. Despite aqadvisor telling me I need to do 30% weekly, I plan to do 20% biweekly water changes (including gravel vacuum). Thus, I need good testing supplies. With my goldfish & Pleco combo …. I used Walmart’s Jungle Quick Dip test strips …… doing 20% bi weekly …… (¼ the changes aqadvisor recommended) and water was always clear and tested fine. Should I use a better test strip …… and if so, which one? Or … should I be using the more sophisticated liquid/test tube method? [Note: if tests show water degraded ….. I’ll just suck up the $$ costs with more water changes. ]

Filter: This goes along with water quality. I know my filter is a WalMart "el cheapo" but I got it after an emergency breakdown. I plan on upgrading to an AquaClear70 or something like that someday ..... but would I better off to just go ahead and replace it now ???

Feeding: I feed using a “floating ring,” alternating with TetraMin and API flakes twice daily and Hikari frozen brine shrimp twice weekly. Fish devour all food … especially the brine shrimp. Only problem: the API flakes seem a bit too “fine grained” so I turn off the filter during feeding but some still goes to the bottom for the corys. Should I ditch either or both of the TetraMin (mediocre quality) or API (too fine) and go with something else??

Thanks for your input and tips !!!

Oops one more thing ....... is there a tutorial on how to post pictures to this forum?
__________________

__________________
Paul1792 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2013, 09:49 AM   #2
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Stlrockguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Springfield, Missouri
Posts: 1,179
One thing I did with my tank I had overstocked was buy a ehiem(however its spelled) vacuum. They are motorized and doesn't take any water out of the system. That way you can keep the gravel clean in between water changes. I did this on my 120 African cichlid tank and my water was always perfect. I was way overstocked. At least 40 fish in it
__________________

__________________
Stlrockguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2013, 09:51 AM   #3
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Stlrockguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Springfield, Missouri
Posts: 1,179
To post pics just go to where you reply press the + sign and choose where you want the pic to come from. Then click on it once downloaded insert inline and write a comment with it
__________________
Stlrockguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2013, 09:55 AM   #4
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Gulf Breeze, Florida
Posts: 419
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stlrockguy View Post
To post pics just go to where you reply press the + sign and choose where you want the pic to come from. Then click on it once downloaded insert inline and write a comment with it
Thanks for the tips. I added one last thing through edit while you were answering me .......

Filter: This goes along with water quality. I know my filter is a WalMart "el cheapo" but I got it after an emergency breakdown. I plan on upgrading to an AquaClear70 or something like that someday ..... but would I better off to just go ahead and replace it now ???

What would you recommend ?????
__________________
Paul1792 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2013, 10:00 AM   #5
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
jwh0818's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Harlingen, TX
Posts: 5,563
The wal mart filter is 300gph. Id go with an aqueon 55/75 (400gph) or an aquaclear 110 (500gph). If too much flow is a problem then jam some filter floss in the top or so. This will keep your tank really clean between water changes/gravel vacs
__________________
Fluffy's History!
jwh0818 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2013, 10:04 AM   #6
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Stlrockguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Springfield, Missouri
Posts: 1,179
I'm using an emperor 400 on my 30 gallon African cichlid tank right now. I'm not sure about other filters since I've started using the emperor my water has stayed perfect even in overstocked tanks. I'm the type that sticks to what I know works good for me
__________________
Stlrockguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2013, 01:45 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Gulf Breeze, Florida
Posts: 419
Thanks for the filter advice. I need to do lots of research on that one

FWIW: I posted two pictures of my tank in my "album" in my profile:

Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community - Paul1792's Album: Paul1792's 38 gallon - Picture
__________________
Paul1792 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2013, 01:58 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Stlrockguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Springfield, Missouri
Posts: 1,179
Looks good.
__________________
Stlrockguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2013, 04:19 PM   #9
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
azmodan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 2,368
You should definitely invest in an API freshwater master test kit. They're pretty cheap on amazon or eBay (~$20). Strips can be pretty inaccurate.
__________________
azmodan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2013, 07:05 AM   #10
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Gulf Breeze, Florida
Posts: 419
Good suggestion

Quote:
Originally Posted by azmodan View Post
You should definitely invest in an API freshwater master test kit. They're pretty cheap on amazon or eBay (~$20). Strips can be pretty inaccurate.
************
You're right. Thanks ........ now that I think about it, the test strips were showing everything was fine when my tank was overrun by black brush algae which I cured following the advice in this forum. To avoid shipping charges, next time I place an Amazon order, I'll add the API test kit to the order.
__________________
Paul1792 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2013, 07:38 AM   #11
Aquarium Advice Addict
Community Moderator
 
Fresh2o's Avatar



Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 12,863
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1792 View Post
************
You're right. Thanks ........ now that I think about it, the test strips were showing everything was fine when my tank was overrun by black brush algae which I cured following the advice in this forum. To avoid shipping charges, next time I place an Amazon order, I'll add the API test kit to the order.
+1 on the API FW Master test kit and an AC 110 hob filter. You can run the new filter in conjunction with the old one for a few weeks (and possibly transfer some of the media from the old filter) to ensure the BB gets established. If the flow from both filters is not too much, I'd suggest running both moving forward. That way if one filter were to ever go out of service, then you'd have a backup that keeps things going especially since you are overstocked.
__________________
I am an ALGAE farmer.
Terms of Service | Community Rules | FresH2O's Planted Tank | Fresh2o's Shrimp Tank
Fresh2o is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2013, 08:32 AM   #12
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
KPhilly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Alabama
Posts: 848
It's recommended to keep more then 2 Cory cats because they are a shoaling fish. I've always been told of at least 3. I'll probably have 10 in my 90 gallon.
__________________
KPhilly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2013, 10:18 AM   #13
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Gulf Breeze, Florida
Posts: 419
Quote:
Originally Posted by KPhilly View Post
It's recommended to keep more then 2 Cory cats because they are a shoaling fish. I've always been told of at least 3. I'll probably have 10 in my 90 gallon.
************

You are right. I am going to add two more. I was thinking about it anyways just because they are so "cute" and active in my tank. They really stand out. I am going to buy two more !!!!!!!

Thanks

I am also going to switch my food to NLS New Life Spectrum Freshwater Flakes w/Garlic unless someone gives me a better idea. The API is not so great !!!!!!!
__________________
Paul1792 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2013, 07:17 AM   #14
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Gulf Breeze, Florida
Posts: 419
Purchases Made-Thanks everyone/Red Tetra Issue/Preventative Medicine

Quote:
Originally Posted by azmodan View Post
You should definitely invest in an API freshwater master test kit. They're pretty cheap on amazon or eBay (~$20). Strips can be pretty inaccurate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by KPhilly View Post
It's recommended to keep more then 2 Cory cats because they are a shoaling fish. I've always been told of at least 3. I'll probably have 10 in my 90 gallon.
*************
I just placed my amazon order for the API Master Test Kit, API GH & KH test kit, and New Life Spectrum flakes 90 gram. Entire order was $40.88 with free shipping. Wow ..... That's less than the $49 Petland charges for the test kit alone. Yesterday I added two more small albino corys. The tank looks "complete" now. They adapted immediately.

Interesting, when I went back to PetSmart for the corys, I discovered I had Red Minor Tetra not the common Red Serpae.

Hyphessobrycon serpae = Long Fin Red Minor Tetra (Not in database of aqadvisor.com)
Hyphessobrycon eques = Serpae Tetra

The "cousins" I find are known to be "fin nippers" if not in proper environment. Many are saying there should be 6 in the tank ....... I have only 5. Since all behavior in the tank appears to be peaceful coexistence, I'll just kind of keep an eye on 'em for now.

Looks like other than water exhange & HOB filter change, I should be able to sit back & enjoy. For now, I am opting not to put any type of "preventative medication ... water conditioners ... yada yada ...." unless my water tests show something wrong when the test kits arrive next week.
__________________
Paul1792 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2013, 09:17 AM   #15
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Mrs.h2012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,977
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1792 View Post

*************
I just placed my amazon order for the API Master Test Kit, API GH & KH test kit, and New Life Spectrum flakes 90 gram. Entire order was $40.88 with free shipping. Wow ..... That's less than the $49 Petland charges for the test kit alone. Yesterday I added two more small albino corys. The tank looks "complete" now. They adapted immediately.

Interesting, when I went back to PetSmart for the corys, I discovered I had Red Minor Tetra not the common Red Serpae.

Hyphessobrycon serpae = Long Fin Red Minor Tetra (Not in database of aqadvisor.com)
Hyphessobrycon eques = Serpae Tetra

The "cousins" I find are known to be "fin nippers" if not in proper environment. Many are saying there should be 6 in the tank ....... I have only 5. Since all behavior in the tank appears to be peaceful coexistence, I'll just kind of keep an eye on 'em for now.

Looks like other than water exhange & HOB filter change, I should be able to sit back & enjoy. For now, I am opting not to put any type of "preventative medication ... water conditioners ... yada yada ...." unless my water tests show something wrong when the test kits arrive next week.
I had serape tetras once. I started out with only 5 and they were bad a nipping at chasing everyone else in my tank. I then read about having atleast 6 so I went back to LFS and ended up getting 2 more making my numbers 7. It seemed for me that having an odd number that was over 6 did the trick. They still chased and nipped, but it was only within their school and they completely ignored everyone else. Maybe that could work for you!
__________________

__________________
Mrs.h2012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
8 gallon, advice, gallon, problem, stock

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off








» Photo Contest Winners







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.