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Old 11-01-2015, 07:56 PM   #401
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Didn't you use 'seeded' material??
I have seen many fishless cycles that never showed nitrite at all!

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Didn't you use 'seeded' material??
I have seen many fishless cycles that never showed nitrite at all!
Yep. Just confused about the crazy nitrate. The only time I've seen nitrate read this high is on a tank that didn't have a water change for 6 months. Could root tabs cause that?
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IMO adding the ammonia to seeded material is the cause.
Your seeded material is 'strong like bull'!
Change water now(like 90%) call that bad boy cycled!
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IMO adding the ammonia to seeded material is the cause.
Your seeded material is 'strong like bull'!
Change water now(like 90%) call that bad boy cycled!
Yah.. not the first time I've seen whacky parameters with a fishless cycle.

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I'll wait for the nitrite to drop to 0 and then call it cycled. Gotta wait on being able to get the zebra loaches and getting some driftwood and plants. Not to mention the light and hood. Hey poppa, any update on having new plant packages?
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Old 11-02-2015, 12:39 PM   #406
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Decided to do a giant water change on the new 55 (and all the other tanks on a normal routine). Nitrite is still high but the ridiculous nitrate was bothering me. Depending on what the levels are after a water change I might dose some ammonia and then let it run.
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Started epsom salt treatment for the angelfish after moving her to the QT tank. She's going to feast on guppy fry.
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Good luck man!
Keep us updated on how this works and how you are installing treatments.
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Well for now I just added 1 tsp to a 10 gallon and have plans for a bath if necessary. But WOW this worked well, and FAST! It's been 12 hours and swelling is significantly reduced. Eye still looks damaged; that may be permanent. And I'll probably keep her in the QT untill she starts to grow again.

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Updates/progress! I ordered the light for the 55 gallon today. I got this on Brookster's recommendation: Elf 1200 6500K LED Pent 48" 0 50W Freshwater Plant Tetra Discus 120cm 16 | eBay

Also, the tank is cycled, so I'm going to be getting zebra loaches tonight or tomorrow! Still no spawning from the new angelfish unfortunately.
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Hey, since this is a spawning pair of angelfish anyway, do you think it matters if I add them first?Typically I'd wait to add them but the loaches won't be here for a week minimum- Petco screwed it up
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Id wait... They can get nasty when paired.

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Id wait... They can get nasty when paired.

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True, but they're nasty anyway. And loach import season is very close to ending; it's possible it could be half a year before I can get them again.
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Can't, petco screwed up the order. Do you think it'll make a real diference whether or not the angelfish pair is added first though? Since the only fish in there will be the bottom-dwelling loaches.
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It could... Id say yes it would. When adding a "pair" they should usually be the last to enter the community. They will get viscous when in the mood. And loaches are notorious egg thieves. So i would foresee a battle.

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It could... Id say yes it would. When adding a "pair" they should usually be the last to enter the community. They will get viscous when in the mood. And loaches are notorious egg thieves. So i would foresee a battle.

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Hey, here's another question... what wold happen with 2 pairs added simultaneously to a 55 gallon?
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