So, ottos or kuhli loaches?

[Goldfish loach boy]

So I have decided that I will put 5 neon tetra, and 3 ADF( African dwarf frogs), now I just want to add one more thing, will 2-3 ottos be good or 3 kuhli loaches
Which has the least bio load?
Thanks

[DragonGirl]

Otos are more suited to a 10 gallon so I would go with those. Just make sure the tank is several months old as otos are very sensitive

[Goldfish loach boy]

Ok, yes, my aquarium is empty now, but it's still running, it's been up for about a month an a half, I'll get them this weekend, thanks

[Rivercats]

Personally I wouldn't put Oto's in until it's at least 4 months mature and your water parameters have stablized. Has the tank been cycled during the time it's been set up?

[Goldfish loach boy]

Originally Posted by Rivercats

Personally I wouldn't put Oto's in until it's at least 4 months mature and your water parameters have stablized. Has the tank been cycled during the time it's been set up?

Yes, the parameters are stable, they are pretty good

[Phranque]

Month and a half is not an established tank.... I'd wait a while on the Otos.

[Rivercats]

A tank that has been up and "running" for 6ish weeks is not mature. And what are the exact numbers for ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate? Is the tank planted? Oto's have a high mortality rate as it is since almost all are wild caught and often caught using cyanide.

[Goldfish loach boy]

Originally Posted by Phranque

Month and a half is not an established tank.... I'd wait a while on the Otos.

Ok, I can do that as I can add the tetras and the frogs while time passes, how much longer should I wait?

[Goldfish loach boy]

Ammonia is zero, and nitrate is at 4

[Goldfish loach boy]

Ad how manyADF can I put in my 10 gallon?

[Rivercats]

No more than 3 due to the fact they are very messy eater which tends to put a stress on water quality.

[Goldfish loach boy]

Ok, so 5 neon tetras, 3 ADF and 3 Otos, can I add a dwarf gourami?
This s for a 10 gallon planted tank

[Goldfish loach boy]

Originally Posted by Rivercats

A tank that has been up and "running" for 6ish weeks is not mature. And what are the exact numbers for ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate? Is the tank planted? Oto's have a high mortality rate as it is since almost all are wild caught and often caught using cyanide.

Yes the tank is panted with anacharis, ad im adding another type of plant, a marimo moss ball, and some moss like x-mas if I can find it

[Goldfish loach boy]

Ok, so I think final stock is
5 neon tetras
3 ottos
3ADF
And one male and one female guppy
Is this good?

[piao liang yu]

Originally Posted by Goldfish loach boy

Ok, so I think final stock is
5 neon tetras
3 ottos
3ADF
And one male and one female guppy
Is this good?

If you are going to do guppies I would only do males. If you get females with them they will reproduce and over populate the tank pretty quickly. Plus you need two females for every male anyway if you keep females. You can do just male guppies which are more colorful anyway. I think that even though guppies are not necessarily schooling fish, they do like to be together with more of their own kind so I would suggest three male guppies. The guppies and the frogs will mandate that you have very good filtration and weekly pwc's. Weekly pwc's should be standard practice regardless though.

[piao liang yu]

Also, I have four otocinclus. The water parameters are not the only concern for them. As the others have said, the tank needs to be well established because they live on the biofilm that you may not even see that forms from an established tank. If the tank is not established they will starve to death. Based on what I have read even if you put in algae wafers it will not work for them.

[Goldfish loach boy]

So I can keep 5 neon tetras, 3 male guppies, 3 frogs and three ottos, or would it be better 8 male guppies 3 frogs and 3 ottos?

[Goldfish loach boy]

Ok, I can wait one more month for the ottos

[absolutangel04]

In my opinion, I would not do more than 2 otos in a 10g tank. They are social, but I have never had an issue with them getting overly stressed when kept in pairs. In this case, the issue will be space. Since they are rather picky eaters and often eat only biofilm and algae (many do not eat supplements like wafers), there is not likely to be enough food for 3 of them in the long run.

[Goldfish loach boy]

Ok, so 2 ottos, got it
Hey, are neon tetras or guppies better?