Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 02-23-2017, 01:38 AM   #1
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
kashif314's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,377
Salanity and Hydrometer. Please help.

Hi guys. My question is about brackish water but I ask here because u guys are expert in this field.

I am in transition from freshwater to brackish water. I mix the marine salt in water but I want to know when can I get the accurate reading at hydrometer? Suppose I put salt so when I need to check salanity level to hydrometer. Immediately or after few hours or what?

Please help. Thanks.
__________________

__________________
kashif314 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 12:05 PM   #2
Macro Addict
 
54seaweed's Avatar



POTM Champion
Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Colorado
Posts: 7,808
you will always get a better reading if you let water circulate a few hours before testing
__________________

__________________
Save
54seaweed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 08:28 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
kashif314's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,377
Thanks Sir for reply but approximately how many hours?
__________________
kashif314 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 08:35 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
TMRC Exotics's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 2,363
With good circulation an hour to two will be fine

Sent from my SM-G920V using Aquarium Advice mobile app
__________________
TMRC Exotics is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 08:39 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
kashif314's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,377
Thanks. I have two powerheads and one UV power head sterilizer and an air stone too so I guess I have adequate circulation.

Please one thing I want to know is air stone is fine for brackish water? I mean my wife don't let me remove bubbles. She likes it. Please reply. Thanks.
__________________
kashif314 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 09:28 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
TMRC Exotics's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 2,363
The only issue I forsee is salt creep. It doesn't take much surface agitation to let salt escape the water and build up on the tank sides, a bubbling apparatus will cause that. For that reason I limit surface agitation in my reef, bubble stones are a no go for me.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Aquarium Advice mobile app
__________________
TMRC Exotics is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 09:42 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
kashif314's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,377
Quote:
Originally Posted by TMRC Exotics View Post
The only issue I forsee is salt creep. It doesn't take much surface agitation to let salt escape the water and build up on the tank sides, a bubbling apparatus will cause that. For that reason I limit surface agitation in my reef, bubble stones are a no go for me.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Aquarium Advice mobile app
Yes Sir that is exactly what happened to my tank. I had only a little salt like only a tea cup size but I noticed walls of my tank has salt sticked to them. I didn't know its because of air stone.

So there is no way to fix it right? Must remove air stone or is it possible to prevent this problem?
__________________
kashif314 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 09:47 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
TMRC Exotics's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 2,363
Yes, the water agitation by the airstone helps salt reach above water level, at which point it dries into solid salt. A powerhead pump could give you water movement and a few bubbles in place of the bubble stone helping the salt escape.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Aquarium Advice mobile app
__________________
TMRC Exotics is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 09:56 PM   #9
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
kashif314's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,377
Quote:
Originally Posted by TMRC Exotics View Post
Yes, the water agitation by the airstone helps salt reach above water level, at which point it dries into solid salt. A powerhead pump could give you water movement and a few bubbles in place of the bubble stone helping the salt escape.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Aquarium Advice mobile app
Thanks Sir. What if I make the bubbles very slow? I mean I don't have oxygen problem because of three powerheads and the bubbles are just for looks. Will slowing it down help? I don't like salt on tank walls. Water looks cloudy from outside even its crystal clear.
__________________
kashif314 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 10:27 PM   #10
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
TMRC Exotics's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 2,363
You may be able to help by slowing the air flow, however I doubt it will stop the salt creep. Take a look at many salty tanks, you will notice one constant, no air stones. Even though this tank is brackish rather than a full saltwater the same principles apply, salt doesn't work if it is lifted from the tank by air.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Aquarium Advice mobile app
__________________
TMRC Exotics is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 10:30 PM   #11
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
kashif314's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,377
Yes Sir I saw that. Never seen an air stone in any saltwater tank. So if I let the bubbles from powerhead will that have same effeft? Power head filter has this little tube for air from outside and make bubbles. Will that have same effect like air stone?
__________________
kashif314 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 11:10 PM   #12
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
TMRC Exotics's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 2,363
In my reef tank I have one powerhead that has the airline tubing to the surface like you are describing, it has a valve adjusting air intake as well, I run a little airflow in the center of the tank without salt creep.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Aquarium Advice mobile app
__________________
TMRC Exotics is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 11:14 PM   #13
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
kashif314's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,377
Quote:
Originally Posted by TMRC Exotics View Post
In my reef tank I have one powerhead that has the airline tubing to the surface like you are describing, it has a valve adjusting air intake as well, I run a little airflow in the center of the tank without salt creep.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Aquarium Advice mobile app
Yes mine has same. Have a valve too. The air bubbles comes from where the water comes out. So that doesn't add salt creep? Am I good to go with that? I am sure if its not doing in your tank than I guess I ll be fine.
__________________
kashif314 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 11:15 PM   #14
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
kashif314's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,377
My powerhead is at one side so can have bubbles on one side and not in center. It will be like coming from corner.
__________________
kashif314 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2017, 12:18 PM   #15
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
TMRC Exotics's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 2,363
Yeah, I think you should be fine with that.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Aquarium Advice mobile app
__________________
TMRC Exotics is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2017, 05:42 PM   #16
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
kashif314's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,377
Thanks for the reply. Well today I removed air stone and tried to agitate water surface by power head. Can u please have a look at the video and suggest is this ok?

https://youtu.be/02cwn-d6DBM

Thanks.
__________________
kashif314 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2017, 10:22 PM   #17
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
TMRC Exotics's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 2,363
Yes I watched it, that's a nice current. The tank looks awesome too. What's the stock? Looks really cool.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Aquarium Advice mobile app
__________________
TMRC Exotics is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2017, 10:34 PM   #18
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
kashif314's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,377
Quote:
Originally Posted by TMRC Exotics View Post
Yes I watched it, that's a nice current. The tank looks awesome too. What's the stock? Looks really cool.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Aquarium Advice mobile app
Thanks for the continuous help and for liking the tank. I have five mono angels, four green spotted Scats and two archers in it. Trying to make salanity to brackish slowly as they spent all there previous life in freshwater and that is why I am gradually transitioning water to brackish.

By the way that reminds me that I have been told that adding salt will start a cycle so I must make the tank brackish at once to 1.008 but I am still hesitant because don't want to give stress to fish. I don't know if they can accumulate to such sudden changed increased salanity. Your thoughts Sir?
__________________
kashif314 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2017, 12:12 AM   #19
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
TMRC Exotics's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 2,363
No problem on helping, that's an awesome tank. Unfortunately I'm not alot of help on brackish conversion. I keep freshwater cichlids and a saltwater reef currently after a decade of other various fish keeping, but I've never done a brackish tank. I do know that the bacteria colony from fresh to saltwater are not the same. I know that transitioning from fresh to brackish has to have time for the new salinity tolerant beneficial bacteria to grow similar to the original fresh water denitrifiying bacteria. With adequate water changes the two bacterias should balance and I wouldn't expect any large spikes. Just keep an eye out and if you see problems water change. Again, I'm not an expert on brackish, but I do know a little.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Aquarium Advice mobile app
__________________
TMRC Exotics is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2017, 04:38 AM   #20
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
kashif314's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,377
Quote:
Originally Posted by TMRC Exotics View Post
No problem on helping, that's an awesome tank. Unfortunately I'm not alot of help on brackish conversion. I keep freshwater cichlids and a saltwater reef currently after a decade of other various fish keeping, but I've never done a brackish tank. I do know that the bacteria colony from fresh to saltwater are not the same. I know that transitioning from fresh to brackish has to have time for the new salinity tolerant beneficial bacteria to grow similar to the original fresh water denitrifiying bacteria. With adequate water changes the two bacterias should balance and I wouldn't expect any large spikes. Just keep an eye out and if you see problems water change. Again, I'm not an expert on brackish, but I do know a little.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Aquarium Advice mobile app
Thanks a lot for the detailed reply.
__________________

__________________
kashif314 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
hydrometer

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help! Hydrometer Readings. mhorgunn Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 14 02-01-2008 11:23 PM
HELP Using the Hydrometer gregp Saltwater Reef Aquaria 6 12-27-2004 11:46 AM
Help! Deep Six hydrometer won't register jlindseyjr Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 7 03-09-2004 06:02 PM
Help me read my hydrometer, is it high or low? deep six salituro Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 9 12-04-2003 06:51 PM
hydrometer broken need help fishguy Saltwater Reef Aquaria 12 10-06-2003 06:12 PM







» Photo Contest Winners







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.