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Old 07-26-2013, 06:25 PM   #61
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can you guys give me the most affordable setup and the cost?

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Old 07-26-2013, 06:36 PM   #62
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Sounds like funds are right for this tank! There is no cheap way to do a reef tank properly. I recommend starting off fish only anyway as waiting a good 6 months is always a good idea before adding corals. Fish aren't fussy for lighting anyway and it gives you time to get used to the maintenance and upkeep of the tank. It's hard to put a ballpark figure on what a set up costs as you will find many different opinions too. I can tell you that my 55g cost around $1800 to set up that was just tank, skimmer, powerheads, sand, rock, test kits and a few other bits and bobs. I have dropped many thousands since. Don't do what I did, buy lights - upgrade 2 months later, buy more lights (t5s) upgrade 4 months later to leds. Wasted so much money. Don't forget too that corals are expensive to buy and are very addictive!
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:22 AM   #63
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Sounds like funds are right for this tank! There is no cheap way to do a reef tank properly. I recommend starting off fish only anyway as waiting a good 6 months is always a good idea before adding corals. Fish aren't fussy for lighting anyway and it gives you time to get used to the maintenance and upkeep of the tank. It's hard to put a ballpark figure on what a set up costs as you will find many different opinions too. I can tell you that my 55g cost around $1800 to set up that was just tank, skimmer, powerheads, sand, rock, test kits and a few other bits and bobs. I have dropped many thousands since. Don't do what I did, buy lights - upgrade 2 months later, buy more lights (t5s) upgrade 4 months later to leds. Wasted so much money. Don't forget too that corals are expensive to buy and are very addictive!
What light should I get for a fowlr and what substrate is the best?
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Old 07-27-2013, 04:02 AM   #64
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This is what I would use for substrate CaribSea Dry Aragonite Special Grade Reef Sand
and for light I would get led lights from the start.. like these... 28BLUE 27WHITE Dimmable D120W LED Aquarium Light US Warranty Free Shipping | eBay
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Old 07-27-2013, 11:39 AM   #65
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This is what I would use for substrate CaribSea Dry Aragonite Special Grade Reef Sand
and for light I would get led lights from the start.. like these... 28BLUE 27WHITE Dimmable D120W LED Aquarium Light US Warranty Free Shipping | eBay
can I use live sand and and why are the lights so expensive.?
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Old 07-27-2013, 11:44 AM   #66
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can I use live sand and and why are the lights so expensive.?
Yes you can use live sand it will help the tank cycle faster also.
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Old 07-27-2013, 11:49 AM   #67
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Those lights are among the cheapest you can get and will work for almost any tank allowing you to keep pretty much whatever you like. Not very much is cheap with saltwater unfortunately.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:30 PM   #68
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Is it ok if I put a skunk cleaner shrimp in a fowlr? For now I'm gonna do fowlr setup then put reefs I'm after 6 months.
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As long as you aren't putting fish in that won't eat it. And the same would go for the future reef. Make sure the fish you decide to put in wont nip and eat corals for that eventual upgrade.
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What is the maximum fish I can put in a 20 long
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Totally depends on the fish. It's not about size either but lifestlye of the fish. Big swimmers shouldnt go into such a small tank but there might be a larger fish that just hangs out and doesnt need the swim room.

Check out liveaquaria.com Thye have like every fish you'd ever want and it shows recommended tank sizes and a little bit about care and requirements.
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Is caribsea seaflor live sand good?
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:56 PM   #73
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It's excellent.
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