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02-07-2014, 09:00 PM
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My friend has a 40 gallon tall tank. It is only 30 inches long. He is going to stock a... Yellow tail damsel, a striped damsel, a Picasso trigger, an emperor angel, and a pair of clowns. This is with a emperor 280 filter and 5 pounds of live rock, and a coral insert. What do you think about this?
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02-07-2014, 09:05 PM
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My friend has a 40 gallon tall tank. It is only 30 inches long. He is going to stock a... Yellow tail damsel, a striped damsel, a Picasso trigger, an emperor angel, and a pair of clowns. This is with a emperor 280 filter and 5 pounds of live rock, and a coral insert. What do you think about this?
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The damsels and clowns are fine. Absolutely no on the trigger and angel. Plus he needs about 35 more pounds of live rock
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02-07-2014, 09:07 PM
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So even if the trigger is like 2 inches and so is the angel. The insert takes up most if the tank but I will tell him to still add more live rock.
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02-07-2014, 09:10 PM
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So even if the trigger is like 2 inches and so is the angel. The insert takes up most if the tank but I will tell him to still add more live rock.
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These fish need a lot of swimming room and what happens when it gets to big if you can keep it alive that long. Big angels are on the more difficult side to keep alive. These fish deserve a home they can live in their whole lives just like any other pet we keep. Why deprive them of that. I will guarantee the angel will get sick eventually in a tank that size.
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02-07-2014, 09:12 PM
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If he really must have an angel get a dwarf from the centropyge genus. Even then they require more swimming room but it's not as horrid as putting an emperor in there
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02-07-2014, 09:32 PM
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So trigger no, and emperor no
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02-07-2014, 09:33 PM
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So trigger no, and emperor no
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Yep lol
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02-07-2014, 09:33 PM
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How big of a tank for those 2?
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02-07-2014, 09:34 PM
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The emperor-240 (8 feet) at least. IMO a 10 foot, 3 foot wide tank would be the best.
Picasso-125
For both at least a 240 that is 8 feet
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02-07-2014, 09:36 PM
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So even when there small they shouldn't be kept. How long could they be kept if he was to get a bigger tank
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02-07-2014, 09:39 PM
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Maybe 6-8 months but a 30" tank just isn't fair to even the small guys. Why does he need those 2 fish. There are so many nice looking little fish so much more suited to that tank. Wait until he has a bigger tank to get them. Also, that emperor needs sponges and algae in it's diet. Sponges don't grow on coral inserts.
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02-08-2014, 08:26 PM
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He didn't put the trigger
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02-08-2014, 08:37 PM
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this is his frend he is telling you abouy that and he is lying and doing this for the fun of it so just chill I am putting Clowns damsels and a flame I have done my reaserch and know what my tank is capable of and I do plan on getting a 80 and putting a Piccaso in that tank and just so y'all know when ever y'all take thes fish out of the wild and put them in
your tank the life span of your fish is cut In half no mater what tank size so befor you piss your pants wich I can see you already have just know that I have a completely reasonable stoking list
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Lol what I'm so confused. Fish live longer in captivity with proper care then the wild... They don't have predators in a tank. That alone gives me a clue to your knowledge. You can stock your tank however just don't insult people who actually care about fish and give advice based on the question asked. Your 80 with the Picasso will eventually just have the Picasso and then you can tell me all about how you're such an expert and I know nothing. Since you're such an expert why are you putting a coral insert in your tank and only 5 lbs of live rock?
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02-08-2014, 08:38 PM
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He didn't put the trigger
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I'm son confused haha.
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02-08-2014, 08:40 PM
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I think I've said enough on this. If your friend has an issue tell him to pm me. This is getting kinda ridiculous
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