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12-10-2004, 02:22 PM
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Aquarium Advice Activist
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The War against Cyano
At a lfs, the owner told me that bumblebee snails will eat red slime cyano, is there any validity, I have the circulation, I use RO/ DI water, my nitrates are around 5ppm(trying to zero them out), my next level of thinking is finding something that may eat it or maybe trying one of those phosphate sponges products since I don't test for phosphates,
thanks for in advance
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12-10-2004, 03:13 PM
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Your next step should be actually testing for PO4. Test both your tank water and source water ( Ro/ DI). Nitrates at 5 are most likely not the problem. I do not know if the bumblebee snails will eat teh cyno. I have not heard of that before. To get rid of the cyno you have now you can use a product called Chemi Clean by Boyd Enterprises, INC. It worked great for me. Remember that it is not a cure, you still need to find and eliminate the source. It is most likely PO4. Good luck in the battle...Lando
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12-10-2004, 04:06 PM
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are you skimming?
I always ask this, because I used a terrible skimmer, and had terrible cyano. I switched to a better skimmer, and within a week my cyano was gone. No other changes to my tank setup.
PO4 went from .07ppm to undetectable too.
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12-10-2004, 10:51 PM
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I've got bumblebee's and they haven't helped my cyano  . I'm in the same boat as you, I do not want to take the Chemi-Clean route but it's been 3 weeks and I am losing my patience.
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12-10-2004, 11:00 PM
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Chemi-Clean sure worked wonders for me. It cleared my cyno up in less then 48 hours. I just replaced three filters and my DI membrane and now all os well. Like I mentioned previously, finding the root of the problem is imparative, however, using the Chemi-clean sure helped me get a jump start on the problem.
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12-11-2004, 03:24 AM
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www.garf.org get reef janitors, i gave up on cyano and tried these, mexican hermit crabs and snails, they actually work. they eat the stuff like candy, its great plus they are cool to watch.
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12-11-2004, 11:06 PM
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Depending on how bad your Cyano problem is Chemi Clean might not work. I have put that stuff in my tank and it did'nt do a thing.
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12-12-2004, 10:36 PM
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Thanks for all the advice, I think I will probably go with the good skimmer, I hear good things about the Remora and the BakPak, I do have a wood bubble skimmer, but I am told they are not as good, maybe that will combat the problem, and will look into a phosphate test
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12-13-2004, 12:15 AM
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Adding a better skimmer did the trick for me. I had a prizm skimmer and went with a remora, and now I have no problem at all. I also used chem clear with no luck. It helped but not even close to having a big impact.
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12-13-2004, 01:44 PM
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Chemi-clean is a shortcut - it attacks the bacteria and may also kill beneficial bacteria in your tank. Look to the root cause...
If you have a junk skimmer, upgrade it.
If its a new tank - be patient, it will pass.
If its an established tank - consider cutting back on your feedings and/or changing your light cycle. cyano needs 2 things to grow, food and light. An excess of either of these will make your job more difficult.
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