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Old 06-16-2014, 02:18 AM   #1
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Exclamation Ammonia nightmare . Help !!!

I was given a 5 gallon tank with 4 feeder goldfish . I learnt that it wasn't sufficient space so I bought a 29 gallon tank . After 4 days of adding safestart beneficial bacter I moved the golffish over . The goldfish all got ammonia poisoning so I had to return them to their original tank . They are fine now but they are still crowded. My girlfriend bought me a water heater and added 2 one inch pink kissers .
I thought I could let the pink kisser be an ammonia source and cycle it for me since I didn't have the heart to return the fish to my girlfriend.

I been monitoring both tanks daily and doing water change s to keep the ammonia under 2 ppm . After 3 weeks I have very high ammonia levels and I been doing water changes every 2 days . zero nitrites !!!!zero nitrates !! Shouldn't I have some bacteria yet ? Please with possible solutions

And as for the goldfish I m starting a fishless cycle on a 20 long tank for the crowded goldfish .
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You didn't say if you have a filter and if it's brand new (clean). Liquid starting agents are notoriously slow at kick starting a cycle, despite the over rated claims of the manufacturers. IMO the best way is to use a starter culture from a old tank - a piece of dirty filter media is best. Without that any tank cycling is going to be very slow. Keep your ammonia below 2 to protect your fish but ideally lower but this will slow the cycling down even more, hence the reason fish less cycling is becoming a more preferred option.
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Yeah it was a new filter. I lowered the fill line so more aeration occurs. I m doing a fishless cycle on my 20 long that I just hookep up yesterday . I'm using a slightly used filter and I added ammonia . I do not have a heater for the 20long . Will that slow down the process ?

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You honestly need to increase your water change schedule in order to keep your ammonia levels significantly lower. Water changes honestly should be performed anytime your ammonia and/or nitrite hit around .25ppm for the safety and welfare of your fish.

Unfortunately, four common goldfish in a 5g is not going to work, even short term. Four commons, assuming they are an inch or less, may work for a month or so in a 20g. Even a single common will have issues in a 20g as an adult. They should be growing at a rate of 1/2 to 1inch+ per month. Commons are really best suited to pond environments as they easily grow over 1ft very quickly and can live up to 40years.

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I wish they would have told my child that at the fair where he won them.
Does not having a heater slow down the cycling process .

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I wish they would have told my child that at the fair where he won them.
Does not having a heater slow down the cycling process .

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Such an awful practice!

Ideal temps for bacterial growth are in the mid eighties. However, as long as your tank is a reasonable temperature, it will still cycle without an issue. If its in the mid-60's or less, the cycling process will take significantly longer. I honestly would move the goldfish immediately and do a fishin cycle (after a few 100% wcs to remove all ammonia first). Please ask any questions!
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My fishless has not started yet 😭

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I think when I added water with a bucket it stirred up the gravel . Now I'm putting a plate inside the tank to avoid stirring the gravel

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