JoeDaniels
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Am I able to cycle without a fishless cycle, what is the best way to do it apart from the fishless ? How did they used to do it ? Any help would be brilliant thanks
Am I able to cycle without a fishless cycle, what is the best way to do it apart from the fishless ? How did they used to do it ? Any help would be brilliant thanks
I mean before fishless cycle came about as it has only been about for 10-20 from what I have read and also I have just got my hands on some water and gravel from a very mature and well kept tank so this should help largely
Wy Renegade said:If you have water (especially nasty junky water vaccumed out of the substrate) and gravel (unbleached) from a mature tank, and stock the bio load slowly in your tank, there is no need to cycle at all. All a cycle does is establish bacteria levels in the water and in the substrate. If those bacteria already exist (which they do if you are transfering them from a mature tank), so long as you don't overstock and/or overfeed and cause ammonia levels to rise too quickly you are fine. You will still need to purchase some test kits to ensure that your chemical levels stay in the safe zone.
I mean before fishless cycle came about as it has only been about for 10-20 from what I have read and also I have just got my hands on some water and gravel from a very mature and well kept tank so this should help largely
So I can basically just grab that stuff, slowly add it to my tank, then bam add some fish ?? Just make sure I grab a test kit to keep on top ?
No, you can't just add this stuff to your tank and then fully stock it with fish.
Is your tank currently running or are you just setting it up? If you're just setting it up, add the substrate from the mature tank and mix in any additional new substrate you need. Add the junky water first till it covers the substrate, then add new water till the tank is filled. Give 24 hours for the water to settle and heater to stabilize. Test your levels, if they are good, add a fish or two (no more). Test daily - if levels stay in the safe zone, you can add another fish or two in a couple days and so on.
The gravel will help a little, the water not so much. The NitrAtes you want are found growing on the decorations and in the filter media. If you can get your hands on a well established filter you can cycle your tank in about a week. depending on how much gravel you have it will help too. But your best bet to speed up the cycle process is an established filter.
Otherwise it could take up to 2 months to cycle your tank.
Ok so here's how I currently have my setup, tank has been filled and filter running with dechlorinated water for about 5 days heater came today at 7am this morning GMT and has been running since and is a comfortable 24 degrees I have a bit of fern in there aswell which is nice, am gonna get more tomorrow I think maybe a test kit. Then within the next two days, hopefully tomorrow I should be receiving the mature tank water and gravel tomorrow and not to sure what else he may bring me. What to do now ? And what kit should I pick up that wont break my pocket thankyou
Sounds spot on should take no longer the then about a day to me thats what I was gonna try now you have verified, I have a coopet power head 5w with spray bar, why's that ? The donut in my local tiny pet store said yeah just get a heater and some aquasafe and put your fish in YEAH RIGHT haha but I don't remember it being this hard with my old man haha keep the posts coming as it's doing me some serious favours thanks
Wy Renegade said:Powerhead will give you water movement, but what are you using for actual filtration? Undergravel filter/Hang-on Back Filter or Canister? You will have to have some type of filter in place.
Yeah it's a filter aswell hang on back filter has a filter sponge etc etc just happens to have a spray bar aswell
wicked, thanks for all the help so have any recommendations for my fish ?