Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Freshwater > Freshwater & Brackish - Getting Started
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 06-15-2011, 07:34 AM   #1
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 20
Help !

Hi my nitrite and nitrate levels are super high but amonia 0.0 what could be causing the spike in nitrites ?
__________________

__________________
IINII Sniper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 08:55 AM   #2
Look It Up
 
librarygirl's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 7,052
I read your other thread. It seems like you are in the NitIte spike phase of a cycle, which is normal. But with fish in the tank it's also very dangerous. As I just replied to your other thread, you need to keep monitoring your water levels daily and do water changes any time the ammonia and/or nitrIte levels are above 0.25. If your nitrIte levels are still over 3, you'll have to do a lot of back-to-back water changes; for example, a 50% water change will get the NitrItes own to 1.5, whcih is still too high. Another 50% water change after that will get them down again to about 0.75, which again is still too high, etc. So get out the buckets and get to work
__________________

__________________
librarygirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 11:11 AM   #3
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
eco23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 6,314
I'd also suggest picking up a giant bottle of Seachem Prime to use as your water conditioner. It temporarily neutralizes ammonia and nitrIte for 24-36 hours. It will help protect your fish in between the daily water changes you're going to need to be doing for a while. Good luck.
__________________
The (almost) Complete Guide and FAQ to Fishless Cycling
https://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums...ng-148283.html
Being responsible...fishless cycling defines it, fish-in requires it. Choose wisely.
eco23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 11:16 AM   #4
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Mr. Limpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Northern California (Marin)
Posts: 4,505
Agreed. Get some Prime and dose it at 5x the norm (2 drops per gallon) per instructions on the bottle for the entire tank and it'll neutralize the no2.

If you don't have it here a link to cycling with fish in tank: I just learned about cycling but I already have fish. What now?!
__________________
Mr. Limpet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 02:05 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 20
Thanks guys great help

Im doing 100ltr changes per day but after iv changed the water i test it and its still over 3.3 guess il hav to do more. My nitrates is also through the roof but i guess that makes sense with it changing all the nitrite to nitrate how will i know when it has cycled ??
__________________
IINII Sniper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 02:14 PM   #6
come get me tang police!
 
jetajockey's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: In a swamp near you /Pensacola, FL
Posts: 12,047
I agree with the above posts, another thing you may want to consider if you have fish in the tank is adding a small amount of salt (Nacl) since it has a more lasting effect on reducing nitrite toxicity. I would go with approx 1 tsp/gal premixed thoroughly and added over a course of several hours.
__________________
jetajockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 04:41 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 20
Hi , thanks i do add salt as part of water changes.

All my fish seem really well in health etc just need to get it right 
__________________
IINII Sniper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 06:44 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 20
iv just done another 100ltrs and the nitrite has budged its still sky high along with the nitrate :-~
__________________
IINII Sniper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 06:50 PM   #9
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
eco23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 6,314
Quote:
Originally Posted by IINII Sniper
iv just done another 100ltrs and the nitrite has budged its still sky high along with the nitrate :-~
You've just got to keep doing them :-(. Constant water changes can be a bit stressful for the fish, but believe me that they'd rather deal with pwc's instead of the high levels of no2 in the tank.

I might be mixing things up, but I believe high no2 can cause more extreme breathing problems for the fish than high ammonia (although they'll both damage their gills). If you have an air-stone, it be a good idea to crank that thing up to full blast.

You're doing the right thing by coming to the site, getting advice and following through. I guarantee your fish appreciate all the bucket carrying I'm sure you're doing today
__________________
The (almost) Complete Guide and FAQ to Fishless Cycling
https://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums...ng-148283.html
Being responsible...fishless cycling defines it, fish-in requires it. Choose wisely.
eco23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 07:17 PM   #10
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 20
Yeah thanks well im gunna do another 200 ltrs tomorrow and just pray to god it goes down.

I had plants in my sump to help filter but they were dying so i have taken them out today but i have lots of dead bits of plants should i take all the bits out ?
__________________
IINII Sniper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 07:20 PM   #11
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
eco23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 6,314
Quote:
Originally Posted by IINII Sniper
Yeah thanks well im gunna do another 200 ltrs tomorrow and just pray to god it goes down.

I had plants in my sump to help filter but they were dying so i have taken them out today but i have lots of dead bits of plants should i take all the bits out ?
Yeah, the decaying leaves will cause more ammonia to be put into the tank. The only thing you can do is keep knocking out the water changes until you get the no2 below .25. I'm sure we mentioned Seachem Prime earlier...but a bucket for pwc's and a bottle of Prime will be your fishes best friends for the next few days.
__________________
The (almost) Complete Guide and FAQ to Fishless Cycling
https://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums...ng-148283.html
Being responsible...fishless cycling defines it, fish-in requires it. Choose wisely.
eco23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 07:34 PM   #12
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 20
Seachem prime what is it ? Im in the UK ? :-/
__________________
IINII Sniper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 07:40 PM   #13
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
eco23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 6,314
Quote:
Originally Posted by IINII Sniper
Seachem prime what is it ? Im in the UK ? :-/
I'm not 100% sure it's in the UK unfortunately. It's a dechlorinator which also temporarily detoxifies ammonia and nitrIte for 24-36 hours. Any dechlorinator will work for pwc's, but one which will neutralize the toxins is a major bonus.

If you can find another brand that does that'd be good, but don't buy any products that go into your filter that absorb ammonia, it's not needed and might hurt the process of stabilizing the tank.
__________________
The (almost) Complete Guide and FAQ to Fishless Cycling
https://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums...ng-148283.html
Being responsible...fishless cycling defines it, fish-in requires it. Choose wisely.
eco23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 07:52 PM   #14
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 20
Thanks ill look out for it ! This is my tank
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-3501861405.jpg
Views:	72
Size:	60.7 KB
ID:	40494  
__________________
IINII Sniper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 08:23 PM   #15
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
eco23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 6,314
Quote:
Originally Posted by IINII Sniper
Thanks ill look out for it ! This is my tank
Tank looks nice. I don't know much about your type of fish...but it seems you might need to upgrade at some point. Don't those Arowana get like 4 feet long?
__________________
The (almost) Complete Guide and FAQ to Fishless Cycling
https://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums...ng-148283.html
Being responsible...fishless cycling defines it, fish-in requires it. Choose wisely.
eco23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 12:58 AM   #16
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 20
Iv only just got this one :-0 i think if and when she grows to big i think it will be time to say bye bye :-(
__________________
IINII Sniper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 03:00 PM   #17
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 20
Iv done a 50% change and tested my water now 4 hrs later

pH - 7.0
Amonia - 0.0
Nitrite - 3.3 
Nitrate - 110 

Not budged abit !! And i took 2 hours to do the change ...

What now ? I really cant be doing the change every day . Will the nitrite go down on its own ?
__________________
IINII Sniper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 03:08 PM   #18
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
eco23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 6,314
Quote:
Originally Posted by IINII Sniper
Iv done a 50% change and tested my water now 4 hrs later

pH - 7.0
Amonia - 0.0
Nitrite - 3.3 
Nitrate - 110 

Not budged abit !! And i took 2 hours to do the change ...

What now ? I really cant be doing the change every day . Will the nitrite go down on its own ?
You really only have 3 options...

1) Water changes every day until the tank cycles (for now, multiple ones per day to get no2 and no3 down to below .25).

2) Find a new home for your fish and do a fishless cycle (guide link is in my signature).

3) Or let your fish suffer and die (sorry to sound so harsh, but that's the reality of not doing daily pwc's right now).

Remember that the test kit for nitrIte only goes up to 5, so if your level is actually something crazy like 20 it will still show up as 5 on the test. A 50% pwc will reduce your levels by half, but half may still be above what your kit will show.

Personally, since it's a large tank...I'd run out and buy a Python or Aquaeon water changer. They're a life saver. I can do a 50% pwc on my 48 gallon in under 10 minutes.
__________________
The (almost) Complete Guide and FAQ to Fishless Cycling
https://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums...ng-148283.html
Being responsible...fishless cycling defines it, fish-in requires it. Choose wisely.
eco23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 03:14 PM   #19
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
eco23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 6,314
The other thing I would add is that you're not too far from being cycled. The fact the ammonia is not also through the roof indicates you are in the nitrIte spike phase, and it won't take too much longer before your tank can start converting that and keeping it down on it's own. But again, this is one of the most dangerous times for your fish, so they're going to need your help to get through it.
__________________
The (almost) Complete Guide and FAQ to Fishless Cycling
https://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums...ng-148283.html
Being responsible...fishless cycling defines it, fish-in requires it. Choose wisely.
eco23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 04:22 PM   #20
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 20
Thanks il try and do another 50% tomorrow and ill keep you posted in how im getting on.

My test does only go up to 3.3
An my nitrate goes to 110

So i think you may be right :-(

Thanks for the advice.
__________________

__________________
IINII Sniper is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off








» Photo Contest Winners







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.