Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Freshwater > Freshwater & Brackish - Getting Started
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 01-09-2007, 07:10 AM   #1
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 62
Help a Beginner please?

Hi guys,

It's great to have a forum such as this in existence as it's often difficult to get a straight, easy to understand answer from retailers who are just out to make a quick buck so many thanks in advance.

First things first. I have had a BiOrb (be nice!) for the last couple of years and it works quite nicely. I have some Danio (Zebra and Leopard) and they have been in there for the whole time. How long do these fish live?!? I also have some Platys and a couple of Guppies. Anyway my questions regearding this are to quite different ones.

1. My pump is possibly the noisiest pump in all christendom and it's really annoying. Is there any pump i can buy ( money no object) that is as clsoe to silent as possible and that will be compatible with my BiOrb?

2. I have had 3 Siamese Fighters in my tank over the last year, with varying degrees of success. One of them died of "natural" causes but the most recent 2 were slain by my danio. These are not the only fish that they have done this with either. They also murdered my Neon Tetra and Gourami. Is there any reason for this or should they not be placed in a tank with these other breeds?

Thank you so much for any help and/or advice. It's greatly appreciated. Oh and don't hold it against me but i'm English.

Cheers,

Smidge
__________________

__________________
Smidge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2007, 07:30 AM   #2
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
JDogg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Rapid City, SD
Posts: 2,294
Re: Help a Beginner please?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smidge
Hi guys,

It's great to have a forum such as this in existence as it's often difficult to get a straight, easy to understand answer from retailers who are just out to make a quick buck so many thanks in advance.

First things first. I have had a BiOrb (be nice!) for the last couple of years and it works quite nicely. I have some Danio (Zebra and Leopard) and they have been in there for the whole time. How long do these fish live?!? I also have some Platys and a couple of Guppies. Anyway my questions regearding this are to quite different ones.

1. My pump is possibly the noisiest pump in all christendom and it's really annoying. Is there any pump i can buy ( money no object) that is as clsoe to silent as possible and that will be compatible with my BiOrb?

2. I have had 3 Siamese Fighters in my tank over the last year, with varying degrees of success. One of them died of "natural" causes but the most recent 2 were slain by my danio. These are not the only fish that they have done this with either. They also murdered my Neon Tetra and Gourami. Is there any reason for this or should they not be placed in a tank with these other breeds?

Thank you so much for any help and/or advice. It's greatly appreciated. Oh and don't hold it against me but i'm English.

Cheers,

Smidge
humm... well welcome to AA.

i know nothing about biorbs they seam to be a european thing so i can not help there.

the danios will probaly pick to death anything with long fins.

what is the volume of this tank (gallons is prefered around here, but being a man of science i can handle liters )

what # of each species of fish do you have?
__________________

__________________
Just because I am working at Petco does not mean I am a sell out, they are still an evil empire, that I am trying to make better.
75 Gallon: New World Cichlids|26 Gallon Bowfront: Planted Angelfish/Swordtail Tank|20 Gallon Long: "Nano" non-reef|10 Gallon: frog and mosquito fish
JDogg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2007, 08:38 AM   #3
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 62
Thanks for replying so swiftly.

I have 2 Platys, 5 Danio and 2 Guppies.

The tank holds 30 litres, sorry i don't know what that is in gallons!

It was really the pump issue i was trying to resolve right now cos my tank (in terms of the fish) seems to be quite a happy place.
__________________
Smidge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2007, 08:59 AM   #4
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Albuquerque N.M.
Posts: 141
30 litres is almost 8 gallons. here is a link as to what pumps you could try. I would go with a small one. Or any air pump you can find where ever you are.

http://www.petsolutions.com/Air+Pumps-C-10106-C-.aspx
__________________
--Alex--
O ALX O is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2007, 09:20 AM   #5
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 62
Thanks for that. You guys are ace.

Those whisper pumps by tetratec look good. Does anyone know how well they work in practice?
__________________
Smidge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2007, 10:56 AM   #6
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 305
I have an old whisper pump (probably more than 10 years old...) that works fine. I do have it sitting on a washcloth to decrease the vibration, but otherwise it's not bad.
__________________
fish 'n' fries is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2007, 04:23 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 62
I see. Well that's the sort of thing i'm having to do now and i don't like it so i'm trying to fibnd out whether there's something on the market that's almost silent.

Thanks for your help but i'll keep searching.
__________________
Smidge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2007, 10:00 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Zagz's Avatar



POTM Champion
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
Posts: 17,108
Send a message via MSN to Zagz
Try looking for a pump with rubber on the bottoms. I have some whisper pumps that have rubber on the bottom of the pumps and they are the quietest things I have.

Welcome to AA!
__________________
AA Community Rules | AA TOS

-----------
Site Administrator
Zagz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2007, 11:58 PM   #9
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 328
Get the Whisper Air pumps.. they are blue.
__________________
---
75 Gallon
Rena FilStar xP3, Aquarium Systems Visi-Therm 200W (2), Coralife 48" Aqualight 260W 6700K
---
10 Gallon Hexagon
Hagen AquaClear 30, Visi-Therm Deluxe 50, DIY CF 20W 6500K CF, Hagen Natural CO2 System :: Bloodfin Tetra (1), Red-eye Tetra (3), Black Skirt Tetra (3), Harlequin Rasbora (6), Platy (1), Otocinclus Catfish (1) :: Rotala Indica, Hygrophila Difformis (Wisteria), Cabomba Carolinia
---
tropicalfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2007, 12:21 AM   #10
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
SparKy697's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Northwest Indiana
Posts: 1,495
I was surprised at how quiet these are. Not a bad price either, the model 10 would probably work nicely for you.
__________________
-Joe
"...but the guy at the LFS said I needed it!"
SparKy697 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2007, 12:24 AM   #11
AA Team Emeritus
 
Devilishturtles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Frederick, Maryland
Posts: 8,543
Send a message via Yahoo to Devilishturtles
Have heard great things from the new Whisper pumps as well. Their new design (the curvy one) is really nice and supposedly, one of the quiestest pumps on the market right now.
__________________
-Lindsay

Live in the Western MD/West Virginia/DC Metro Area?
Join our very active regional forum Here

Like the advice someone just gave you? Add to their reputation! Click on the balance icon underneath their username and let them know.
Devilishturtles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2007, 12:30 AM   #12
Sliced Bread
 
neilanh's Avatar


 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 8,482
I need to hear what a different one sounds like then, cuz I think mine is loud. Granted I'm new and its the only one I have. I've got the 60 size. Got used to it and don't hear it anymore unless I think about it, but I was expecting it to be quieter I guess. Works great however!
__________________
~Neilan
In the DC Metro Area? Check out GWAPA and WAMAS
neilanh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2007, 12:46 AM   #13
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
SparKy697's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Northwest Indiana
Posts: 1,495
I'm sure there will be subtle differences in all of them. You still need to make sure that you don't have it pressed against something so that sound does not get transmitted. Also I thing the thin bottom of some of the common tank stands will act as a sort of resonator too. Place it close to the edge and not in the middle of the board.
__________________
-Joe
"...but the guy at the LFS said I needed it!"
SparKy697 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2007, 11:26 AM   #14
Sliced Bread
 
neilanh's Avatar


 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 8,482
I've got mine on a carpeted floor behind my stand. I guess being there, between the stand and a wall, it could be "echoing" off of the wall and increasing the sound. But if I put it inside the door of my stand, it's really loud in there.
__________________
~Neilan
In the DC Metro Area? Check out GWAPA and WAMAS
neilanh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2007, 12:07 PM   #15
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 62
Thanks guys.

I think i'm gonna try one of these whisper pumps but i'm also in the process of trying to get the wife to allow me to have a bigger tank so i might have to wait and see what sort of size i need.
__________________
Smidge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2007, 12:10 PM   #16
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 328
Whisper is actually really good. I got a Rena Air pump, and it wasn't much quieter, and weaker... So I went back to using my really old whisper air pump 10 (the gray box ones)... and its quiet AND strong
__________________
---
75 Gallon
Rena FilStar xP3, Aquarium Systems Visi-Therm 200W (2), Coralife 48" Aqualight 260W 6700K
---
10 Gallon Hexagon
Hagen AquaClear 30, Visi-Therm Deluxe 50, DIY CF 20W 6500K CF, Hagen Natural CO2 System :: Bloodfin Tetra (1), Red-eye Tetra (3), Black Skirt Tetra (3), Harlequin Rasbora (6), Platy (1), Otocinclus Catfish (1) :: Rotala Indica, Hygrophila Difformis (Wisteria), Cabomba Carolinia
---
tropicalfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2007, 12:27 PM   #17
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 256
I have tried several different air pumps in my FW tanks. I am in love with the Airmaster from Marineland. It is sooooo quiet compared to everything else I tried. It has the rubber feet. It also has a flow adjuster, and you can turn it down to almost nothing. So the smallest size (which I believe is for a ten gallon) would def suit your tank. The one I have hooked up in my bedroom is on a hardwood floor and I get no noise. It's also the cheapest one I've ever found (which is surprising, and fantastic!). I'll try to find it online so I can send you a link.
__________________
STARFYRE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2007, 07:00 PM   #18
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 62
Thanks man. You guys are great.
__________________
Smidge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2007, 07:14 PM   #19
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 256
Here's the link....
http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/prod...GroupKey=10411
I'm not sure if the smallest one has the flow adjuster on it. I have the 2000 and 3000 models. Mine has been running for three years now with no problems.
__________________
STARFYRE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2007, 07:26 AM   #20
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 62
What do you guys make of shrimp? I'm thinking of getting one or two to aid with algae control and cos i think they're interesting to watch. What sort of things do i need to be aware of?
__________________

__________________
Smidge is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
beginner

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help ! beginner LBG Nano Reefs 1 09-24-2009 07:57 AM
a beginner hiii Member Introductions 7 11-17-2008 01:34 PM
beginner here!!! debomb4u Freshwater & Brackish - Getting Started 62 04-24-2005 08:16 PM
Beginner needs HELP Kempochick Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 7 08-04-2004 10:42 AM
Beginner- needs HELP R4MZY Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 4 07-31-2003 02:07 AM







» Photo Contest Winners







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.