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Old 09-25-2012, 01:40 PM   #1
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New 29 - Cycle Question

I'm new to aquariums, and am in the process of setting up my new 29 gallon tank, but I have a question about fishless cycling.

A lot of the posts I have read mention having an airstone for a fishless cycle. Is this necessary? I don't really want to go out and buy a stone and pump just for the cycle process.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:57 PM   #2
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I'm new to aquariums, and am in the process of setting up my new 29 gallon tank, but I have a question about fishless cycling.

A lot of the posts I have read mention having an airstone for a fishless cycle. Is this necessary? I don't really want to go out and buy a stone and pump just for the cycle process.
I don't think its a necessity but someone else may offer their opinion in favor of. I think the airstone is to help circulate/oxygenate the water better as when doing a fish LESS cycle the tank temp is usually about 84-85F & when water is warmer there is less oxygen exchange.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:22 PM   #3
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I've started my cycle. The log is here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...WJHM1NSc1lnRXc

Temperature seems to be steady at 80 degrees F, I have one live plant in there (which I already forgot the name of), and 2 pieces of drift wood which are producing quite a bit of tannin.

Is starting at 6ppm of ammonia going to be problematic?
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:02 PM   #4
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Ugh, I'm starting to get some algae grown, and I just wrapped up my first 24 hours of the cycle. I'm assuming it probably tagged along on the plant.

Is there anything I can do to stop it from taking over? I can't leave the light off because of the plant.
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You can turn off the light at night i think. I am pretty sure plants don't need 24/7 lighting.
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Right, which is what i do. I ran it for a little less than 10 hours today.
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Well did you test your tap water for nitrates? More algae when theres lots of nitrates.
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Nope, maybe I'll do that. The only test I've done is ammonia while I was adding it for the cycle.
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An air stone isn't necessary, no. As long as there is sufficient surface agitation from the water flowing into the tank from your filter it should be enough.

What kind of algae? What does it look like?
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It looks to be little white pieces elevated slightly. Almost like a dandelion (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VfmDLAjyHj...Dandelion2.jpg)
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After more research, it looks like it might be a bacteria colony. Has anyone seen this before? Is it a problem for my cycle? Since it seems to be thriving, my good bacteria will have to compete, correct?
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I'm now on day 14 of my Cycle and it doesn't look like anything is (or really has) happened. See the cycle log.

Any advice. The tank is pretty dark with tannins. Could that be causing an issue? I also have a live plant in there, although it doesn't look too happy.
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I've been testing Ammonia every couple of days. On Sunday I tested, and it had dropped from 4 to 3. Today (Tuesday), I tested again, and no ammonia. Nitrites are high (5), and nitrates are off the scale. I guess it's time for a pwc and add more ammonia. Hopefully the nitrites will vanish soon.

All that worrying for nothing. It turns out the tannins didn't hurt things one bit. I think the thing that sped up the cycle the most was I asked the LFS for something I could use to seed with, and they gave me a bucket of vacuum waste from one of their tanks. I dumped it in (picture really gunky water), and let my filter clear it all up.

Also, a note about the white things I saw before. They disappeared one night, and then I started noticing pond snails. I think they were snail eggs.
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