New 50 gallon tank

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snufaluph

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My name is Melissa, and I got my husband a 50 gallon freshwater tank for his birthday on December 7. I had fish as a kid, but my mom was the one doing all the care and maintenance. My brother and I just had to sprinkle some food in every day.

My husband got a mature 75 gallon tank from a friend who was moving, but when my husband moved it was left with his mother, who sold it.

The reason I'm here is that even though my husband and I have experience with the "fun" part of fishkeeping (i.e., watching and feeding the fish that someone else has put all the work into), neither of us knows how to set up a new tank, and we're having some trouble with it.

I read all about the nitrogen cycle and researched to find the best equipment in my budget, and have a friend who worked at a fish store for years help us put the filter together, et c. Unfortunately, my husband did not know about cycling the tank (since he never had to do it before) and ran out and bought fish 2 days later (because the teenage part-time Petsmart employee said it would be ok to get fish after 2 days, no matter what experts online had to say about it...)

Anyway, we have a tiger oscar and a Rainbow shark and are struggling with ammonia levels, and after about 3 weeks there are still 0 nitrites and 0 nitrates. After buying a test kit and testing daily (sometimes twice a day) we realized how high the ammonia was getting. We have been doing 10% water changes every day or two for the last week and a half, and after every water change we take the filter cartridge from our [unknowingly and unintentionally] cycled 3-gallon betta/danio tank and rub it on the gravel right by the filter intake in the 50 gallon. The ammonia still seems to be hovering around 4 ppm, which is no good.

The small tank cycled on its own before we even knew what cycling was and has no issues (we started testing it too just to see), though bettas and danios are both pretty indestructible anyway. I just don't want Frank the tiger oscar and Mac the rainbow shark to suffer from bad water conditions, and I'm worried that the nitrogen cycle has somehow stalled in the 50 gallon. If anyone here can help, I'd appreciate it. :blink:
 
First off, welcome! I am glad that you came here for advice! :)
So, your nitrates and nitrites are at 0 ppm and your ammonia is at 4ppm? What is your pH at? Just from the ammonia results, I can tell you that you will want to do bigger water changes to get the ammonia lowered. With fish in the tank, you will want your ammonia levels below .25 ppm, anything higher is very life threatening. It is okay to do do 50% water changes to achieve the desired levels. You will want to bring it down as quickly as possible, so you can do 50% to get the ammonia reduced to 2 ppm, and a little later, do another 50% to reduce it to 1, etc.
Most people will suggest that you take the fish back and do a fishless cycle. You can cycle with or without, it pretty much comes down to what you want to do. Fishless is recommended so that no fish are harmed.
This article will help explain cycles with fish in the tank.
I just learned about cycling but I already have fish. What now?! - Aquarium Advice
I hope this helps some! If you have any more questions, feel free to ask! :)
 
You should really remove those fish, finish the nitrogen cycle fishless (with ammonia from a bottle), and then go buy more appropriate fish once the nitrogen cycle has completed.

An Oscar gets to about 12" long. That's too big for a 50 gallon tank anyways. You should have at least a 90-100 gallon tank for an Oscar.

Have you got a good selection of African cichlids where you live?
Maybe some Yellow Labs and Demasoni? Or a Saulosi species tank?
 
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