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Old 03-14-2011, 01:25 PM   #1
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Sandmans Sandblasting sand for FW aquarium

I got some black sand from a friend who has the same sand in his 125 FW peacock cichlid tank. He gave me about 50 lbs and I need a little more for my 75 gal FW, but wanted to see if anyone sees a problem with this stuff. I am going to ask the Sandman owner what his material is made of, but???
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Ask BigJim here on AA. I believe he used something similar in a 40G breeder planted he has going
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Old 03-14-2011, 02:30 PM   #3
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Sandblasting

Just off the phone with secretary at The Sandman here and she believes it a copper slag, but is emailing me the MSDS so I can be sure.
Copper slag doesn't sound right or healthy, but several aquarium guys here use the same stuff.
Is there a test kit I can buy to test the water after I cycle before I put my fish in?
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Old 03-14-2011, 02:53 PM   #4
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1. CHEMICAL PRODUCT AND COMPANY IDENTIFICATION
PRODUCT NAME: Kleen Blast
CHEMICAL NAME: Copper Slag
COMPANY IDENTIFICATION EMERGENCY / TECHNICAL NUMBERS
Kleen Blast Division (206) 383-2168
2400 Old Crow Canyon Rd. No. A2 (510) 831-9800
San Ramon, CA 94583 CHEMTREC:
(800) 424-9300
PRODUCT INFORMATION: MSDS Requests and Product Information: (510) 831-9800
SPECIAL NOTES:
2. COMPOSITION / INFORMATION INGREDIENTS
COMPONENTS CAS No. OSHA Exposure ACGIH Recommended Percent
Limits (PEL) Limits (TLV) by Weight
Iron Oxide (Fe
2O3) 1309-37-1 5 mg/m3 5 mg/m3 23.0
Silicon (SiO
2) 7440-21-3 10 mg/m3 10 mg/m3 45.0
Free Silica 7631-86-9 0.1 mg/m
3 0.1 mg/m3 <0.1
Alumina (Al
2O3) 7429-90-5 10 mg/m3 10 mg/m3 7.0
Calcium (CaO) 1305-78-8 2 mg/m
3 2 mg/m3 19.0
COMPOSITION COMMENTS:

Other trace metals and oxides comprise 5.9%.

Don't know if this makes any sense, but at the bottom of the 3 pages, it mentions that (
Not toxic to mammals or aquatic environments. Not persistent in the environment.)
Hope this helps...
I tried to send the MSDS, but the file was too big...
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:11 PM   #5
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I've got a coal slag blasting compound called "Black Blast" in my 40B. I got it from Menards and it's fairly close to the house substrate that aquariumplants.com sells. I compared the MSDS sheets and pictures. Without a lot of further research, I'd be wary of a copper slag.
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pic of bag of sand

www.photobucket.com/smbolter
check out the bag of sand if youd like...
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The link goes to a bunch of Cadillac pictures.
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Aquarium :: Black substrate I plan to use. A few LFS use this in my area picture by smbolter - Photobucket

It was under the aquarium album.
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Bigjim, look for the aquarium album on the right and click.
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Cichlids dig

Since the convict cichlids and others dig and move substrate, will this black media be harmful to their mouths? I am getting what they call 30/60, and it's small grain sized, but is designed with some edges to it.
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Any sharp edges should be avoided. Bottom dwellers can damage their barbels on them as well as their fins. If at all possible avoid sand or gravel with sharp edges.
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Caribsea (20 lb bags) How many for the 75 gal

Well, as usual, after I've bought what I think is the right stuff, I find what I really need.
A pet store off the beaten path has 4 bags of Caribsea black sand. Not sure how many 20 lb bags I will need for the 75, but figure 3 should be good.
Anyone think I need more?
Let me know. Picking it up in about 2.5 hrs.
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The rule of thumb I've heard, is 1 lbs per gallon of water. So 75 lbs ?

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Caribsea sand

Got the last 4 20 lb bags they had of the black caribsea sand. Looks nice with some sparkle in it. Should be a nice touch with the T5 fixture and better for the fish than the sandblasting media
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