Boesemani rainbow ill. Not sure what it is

[rjrossi88]

I've noticed 1 of my rainbows just swimming around the top of my tank lately. Now, the last 2 days, I've noticed that her face has turned a reddish color, almost like it's raw. And the scales on the head have started shedding.

All water parameters are normal.

I've had 2 tetra whisper ex70 filters running, but 1 stopped working about a week and a half ago. Everything has still remained normal.

No other changes have been made to the tank.

My research has made me super paranoid that it could be fish TB. Here's a few pics, Idk how well they will help.

Thank you for any help!

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[rjrossi88]

Anyone?

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[rjrossi88]

Not a single soul has EVER seen this and can shed some light for me?

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[ImACoolguy]

I'm not sure honestly. I looked at this thread before but didn't answer because I'm not sure.

Some guesses:

Columnaris (fuzzy makes me think of it)

Gill flukes (the redness)

Fish TB is a big assumption but it is something to consider. Maybe this can be a bump for someone more knowledgeable to chime in.


Caleb

 

[coralbandit]

Worked all day didn't see!
Fish is getting whipped by someone !!
Looks like fungus that does not grow on healthy skin.
Only on injuries that become infected.....
If this is not from aggression then I would think you HOB failure is making a difference and water parameters are not normal???

Does NOT look like TB and it really does not just develop quickly.

 

[rjrossi88]

It makes me feel slightly better that you sound certain it's not TB lol. Honestly, there's not much in the tank right now. Nothing that's aggressive anyways. I'm sure there's always a chance one of them went rogue on her.

I've been keeping up with extra water changes since my one filter went down, but maybe that just isn't enough.

Any recommendations on treating it if it's fungal? Also, will it spread to others? I don't currently have a QT setup.


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[Delapool]

Plus one on not TB. Would of gone bacterial or fungal but wondering if there was a water chemistry trigger from the filter down. Other fish ok?

 

[rjrossi88]

I checked her out this morning and theres a ball of what looks like cotton where her scales are missing on her face.

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[sinibotia]

I would guess fungus or columnaris. If the water quality is bad, more likely fungus.

 

[rjrossi88]

Sad to say that she died during the day today.

The more I read, the more I'm almost positive it was fungal and not TB. It makes me feel like a crappy fish keeper because a lot of articles point to poor quality and cleaning. I thought that I've been doing really well keeping a healthy, clean tank. I guess there's always more that you can do.

The only thing that I'm not finding very clearly is a way to treat this.

Is this something that I should be treating my entire tank for? And if so, with which meds?

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[coralbandit]

I would treat the tank like it had columnaris..
The combo of meds will take care of most anything(MOST).
Kanamycin and Furan 2 at the same time...
Sorry about your fish.

 

[rjrossi88]

Ok, I'll stop and get those today. Is there anything I have to worry about as far as using those meds? Like are they going to mess with the beneficial bacteria? Or will it affect what fish I can add in the future?

I also have kuhli loaches. Are the meds safe for scaleless fish?

I assume I should remove the carbon from the tank also.

Thank you, by the way. I appreciate the input.

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[sinibotia]

Both of those meds are loach-safe. Neither will crash the biofilter. Remove the carbon.

 

[Delapool]

Just a side note - I have been looking to see if furan2 can be used to treat fugal infections but with absolutely no luck. I was thinking about trying to grow some fungus in a spare tank and try "curing" as I've given up trying to find research articles. Haven't read the patent though if I can find it.

Aquarium Medications Part 2 | Antibiotic & Antimicrobial Treatments

 

[rjrossi88]

I can't seem to find furan2. I found kanaplex but the only fungus med I've found is fungus guard from tetra with nitrofurazone as the active.

Will that work?

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[coralbandit]

You should be good with the fungus guard IMO.
Nitrofurazone, Furan 2; For Aquarium, Pond

 

[rjrossi88]

Awesome! Thank you for the super quick response!

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[rjrossi88]

So I've dosed the tank for the first time. I only did a half dose so not to totally shock everything in there that might be perfectly healthy.

I'm going to follow the process listed but only in half doses. Hopefully everything else is fine.

Will update.

And thank you to everyone for all the help. Sometimes I really feel like I know nothing about the aquarium game and it makes me feel like crap, but you guys are all awesome for being here to help. I hope I can learn a lot from everyone here!

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[Delapool]

Fish going ok with it? No rapid breathing or anything?

 

[rjrossi88]

Seems to be. No one seems any more or less active than usual. I have a few rummynose and the red seems a little pale from stress, but that happens when I gravel vac too so I'm not too alarmed by it. Will have to wait until morning to check for any true change.


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