Okay... I have a 10g with a 8neons and 5 flames. I also have a common pleco who is going to be moved soon along with the neons. However after only a week of having the fish I noticed they had ich. The heat and salt method was recommend by most. I had the tank at 82 and several had said 86 would be fine. So last night I turned off the light to reduce stress and cranked the heater to 86 and woke up and ALL my neons were dead I dunno if i'm terrible at this or our petsmart has the worst fish in the history. I returned my prior fish bc I had them 24 hours before I noticed mouth fungus. Luckily my receipt is still good for the neons. My flames are just stressing in one spot not eating or swimming really. Pleco has just surfaced a couple times for air. I have a bubble wand and two filters in my tank so I Highly doubt there isn't enough air. I'm VERY frustrated bc I have had LESS problems with fish NOT trying so hard. My friends that have fish seem to be fine... not doing PWCs or checking parameters. I'm thinking about taking the flames back as well... and starting over completely with the ten gallon... but I don't know what to do with pleco in the meantime and I sure don't want to get ICH in my 55g??? Any Ideas!!? Im pretty embarrassed that i'm trying to convince my friends to care for their fish the "right" way and they are better fish keepers than me by not doing anything... GRRRRR